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"bread and butter" knobby, digital hardware synth?


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#51 sweepstakes

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 09:00 AM

Oh yeah the sound is great too. There's something special going on with its converters where it handles the high in a really nice way. I've noticed the Mirage doing a similar thing, although with a much different character. Even though something is sampled at a pretty low sampling rate, there's high end content coming out that's very realistic and crisp that doesn't seem to be there with the samplers I've had with higher sampling rates. "Crystal clear" is a good descriptor, I often think of it as "glassy". And I guess the Mirage is... grainy? It's almost like 35mm where other samplers are digital video.



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Posted 07 November 2014 - 11:19 AM

what's this special thing then?



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Posted 07 November 2014 - 06:11 PM

i think just high quality a/d converters with low noise, probably a decent bit depth or a crazy good sample rate (i heard these things run at above 44.1k) also must be reading from the wavetables with really good interpolation

just speculating

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 09:11 PM

Those acreil posts mentioned earlier in the thread might have some clues too.

 

Edit: Wrong synth thread, derp.

http://forum.watmm.c...otes/?p=2244808


Edited by sweepstakes, 07 November 2014 - 09:15 PM.


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Posted 03 March 2019 - 01:40 PM

Anyone here own or ever play on a Roland D-05? None of the Roland Boutiques ever caught my eye, but this one looks pretty cool, and it's very cheap. I've tried my hand at digital before with the reface dx, the volca fm, and the digitone. None of them clicked (digitone came closest, though). Was curious if anyone had any experience or thoughts with the D-05?

 



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Posted 03 March 2019 - 05:04 PM

I've never tried a d05 but I know a guy with an original D50 and programming it isn't as bad as its reputation but it's still pretty far from spontaneous.  Roland really should have released a mini PG-1000 to go with this thing, because as it is you would need to drop like $400 at least to get an original one to go with this thing if you wanted intuitive hands-on control.

 

I've got a D-110, which has a similar architecture but a bit simpler, and programming that thing is a pain, even with the programmer.

 

If you want spontaneity then an LA synth is probably not the right choice but they do sound really cool, and as far as I can tell this thing is really close to an orignal D-50 (I know a guy with one of those and it is one of the best sounding digital synths I've ever heard). There's still a bit of that blanket-over-the-speaker quality I've noticed with literally every DSP based digital synth I've encountered so far, but it's not that bad, it's like a very slightly soft-focus version of the original and in a mix nobody would notice or care.

 

This is the only Roland Boutique that has really grabbed my attention so far.

 

 

BUT, I just checked eBay and there are a few original Roland D-550s on there all for about $100 less than the D05, so if portability isn't a concern and you're OK with vintage gear you could save $100 and get the real thing.  They were closer to $500 when I checked a couple months ago, so maybe it's a good time to grab one.  There's one for $300 shipped including a memory card with the factory presets on it.


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Posted 03 March 2019 - 05:10 PM

I've never tried a d05 but I know a guy with an original D50 and programming it isn't as bad as its reputation but it's still pretty far from spontaneous.  

 

 

Sweet. Thanks for the info and the tip!



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Posted 03 March 2019 - 07:50 PM

It's comparable to programming a Yamaha FM synth.  Slightly more intuitive architecture but less intuitive interface.



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Posted 05 March 2019 - 12:20 PM

It's comparable to programming a Yamaha FM synth.  Slightly more intuitive architecture but less intuitive interface.

That sounds horrible.



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Posted 05 March 2019 - 02:33 PM

There’s a free online patch editor/librarian for the D05 and a couple of other Roland Boutiques. I’m really grateful for them because the super tiny sliders make my JU-06, and JP-08 unusable. Now they’re kind of fun. I don’t know if the DO5 is like the other Boutiques. I had to buy an iConnect Mini to access the parameters via SySex thru the Midi DIN connections. Roland really went a bit too far with that idea, I think. It works really well, though! I’ll probably pick up a D05 if I find one cheap but, the Roland Cloud is always there too. Here’s the link to the free editors:

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Posted 05 March 2019 - 03:07 PM

d50 is such a deep cool synth



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Posted 05 March 2019 - 05:24 PM

Yeah, I would love to have one but when I was still getting synths the D550 was always over $500 and the D50 was like $700 usually, and that was just way too much.  If the prices stay like they are now maybe I'll still get one some day.

 

Back in 2007 or so the band I was in played a show and one of the other acts was a sort of early example of what became modern Synthwave.  Their entire set was one person on D50 and the other on a Korg M-1, with a Boss pedal I didn't get a look at on one of the keyboards and nothing else. Very soundtrack-y, in a more bog, Terminator type way than a John Carpenter or Goblin way like you usually hear today.  It sounded amazing.

 

The D-50 is one of those rare synths like a Juno or a Minimoog that you just touch it and it instantly sounds RIGHT, no matter what sound it's actually making.

 

But they're kind of crap to program.



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Posted 06 March 2019 - 04:39 AM

let's all enjoy this once again

 



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Posted 10 March 2019 - 01:31 PM

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 01:52 PM

There’s a guy in bristol called tudor acid who uses the d05

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Novation peak.