APHEX TWIN - SYRO

[ieatacid]

Here we go, nice and peaceful... we can do this everyone

[may be rude]

..

Edited September 24, 2014 by very honest

[auxien]

Wait, can we not ignore members anymore? Or do I have to upgrade to do that?

 

Also, Syro is still awesome. On about the tenth listen since it leaked and still finding tons of new things and getting different impressions of a lot of the tracks. Such a solid release, but I still can't help but feel Aisatsana is out of place on this record; great song, but to me it just doesn't work with the album, even tacked on to the end.

Edited September 24, 2014 by auxien

[usagi]

 

 

LemanRuss, apologies if you have already done so, but i'd be interested to read a track by track review of Syro in your own words.

lol

cotton swabs will just push the shit into your brain then you'll become shitbrained and change your name to just a symbol and it'll be impossible to find your tracks on soulseek.

lol

[may be rude]

here's why fanboys are annoyed with the the shit talkers here: richard reads this. you're being rude, and maybe discouraging him from further releases. and why? its not the album you wanted? find an album you like. better yet, make the album you hoped for. noone is obligated to make the album you imagined. that's insane. you're wrong to defend your right to be rude here.

Edited September 24, 2014 by very honest

[Guest Roksen Creek]

If Richard is reading this thread then I worry for his sanity I really do.

 

Richard, stop reading, go away and make music that YOU want to.

[Mammal]

 

 

I think lemanruss makes some good points and supports his opinion. Everyone is getting super defensive here. He's not an idiot because he doesn't like it. Everyone stop with the god damned name calling. You are all being so childish right now. What is the point of discussion if all you hear is your own thoughts? I love this album but I completely understand why people would be let down. C'mon babies lets all love each other. We're a rare breed of weirdos, no need for the weirdo on weirdo violence.

He's an idiot for saying shit like this.

 

"If YOU can't hear the stuff missing from Syro, then you not only have shit in your ears, but you are devoid of any real emotion, and are running purely on the dullest of fanboy juice. "

 

 

 

So check yourself before calling people childish. Seems like a fair thing to get defensive about, being told you have shit in your ears.

That was in direct response to someone who made the insult first, and you know it. You insulting me for insulting someone is amusing.

 

Anyway, back to it; for a forum devoted to Aphex, there is surprisingly little detailed review or opinion by people who like Syro. I will refrain from telling you all why I think that is, and will just sit here waiting for people to start explaining in emotive detail what they love about it.

 

I look for the same thing you do in the music, I find pure emotional sincerity in tracks the most important thing, I don't worry too much about slick production or impressive techniques. But I think it's in there in Syro, . It's more easy going than previous releases, the emotional aspects are more tempered but certainly there, some places strong other places more muted. It's an album you can dance and bob too. Do you want dance music that has you flopped across the floor with crippling melancholy? Not all tracks have to scrape ones heart out. The guy has released loads of solitary mood music that one can go back to and enjoy, this is just something a little different and fun.

[MassfreeKid]

@LemanRuss, I think I partly know why you don't like this album. :) You wanted to fall in love with the Aphex you fell in love with in the 90's but he doesn't exist anymore. He's moved on. It's always weird when you meet an ex 15-20 years after the fact. The person has changed, is not the same anymore at all and sometimes, you're like how did I ever fall in love with that person?! Your love story with Aphex is changing and evolving. It has come to a halt. Now, you can accept it or keep whining about it, but in any case, it won't bring your dear Aphex Twin back. I know it's hard. Take all the time you need to grieve. Your golden days of radiant love with Richard are over. I'm sorry, buddy.

[Aphex_Squarepusher_Twin]

here's why fanboys are annoyed with the the shit talkers here: richard reads this. you're being rude, and maybe discouraging him from further releases. and why? its not the album you wanted? find an album you like. better yet, make the album you hoped for. noone is obligated to make the album you imagined. that's insane. you're wrong to defend your right to be rude here.

 

 

in all fairness if richard is still reading this thread he should probably quit at life like many of us already have

 

 

If Richard is reading this thread then I worry for his sanity I really do.

 

Richard, stop reading, go away and make music that YOU want to.

 

lol - i think Richard doesn't care of it 'cause he has other things to do than read us... & don't dream about him for whatever!

[747Music]

So Syro is pretty good, eh. Imma go listen to it again now.

[Joyrex]

@LemanRuss, I think I partly know why you don't like this album. :) You wanted to fall in love with the Aphex you fell in love with in the 90's but he doesn't exist anymore. He's moved on. It's always weird when you meet an ex 15-20 years after the fact. The person has changed, is not the same anymore at all and sometimes, you're like how did I ever fall in love with that person?! Your love story with Aphex is changing and evolving. It has come to a halt. Now, you can accept it or keep whining about it, but in any case, it won't bring your dear Aphex Twin back. I know it's hard. Take all the time you need to grieve. Your golden days of radiant love with Richard are over. I'm sorry, buddy.

Or, it could be, you know, he just doesn't like these particular tracks?

[Berk]

edit; , nvm

Edited September 24, 2014 by Berk

[Jobe]

The thing negative people never seem to understand is that empty negative comments and empty positive comments aren't the same thing. We don't "need" both. Emotional equilibrium is not the goal. Last I checked, being happy was more fun than being angry. Why can't we have more exacting standards for negativity than for positivity?

 

Part of the stereotype of Aphex fans is true: yeah, we're getting older, maybe a little soft around the edges. Know what that also means? We're well into our second decade of reading tired internet flames against "fanboys" and being accused of substandard living accommodations and spartan posting attire. If your go-to insult is a word that means someone who really really enjoys something, maybe you're the problem.

 

So, yep, if you're going to come into a place where you know most people really enjoy and revere someone's work, put on your big Girl/Boy clothes and communicate your criticism with the proper respect for everyone else and understanding of where you are. Because guess what, most people like liking things more than they like disilking things, and they shouldn't have to apologize or take abuse for that.

[A Reggae Lee Bowyer]

I have been a little undecided on how I felt about aisatsana as the last track. It felt a little tacked on and out of place given that the tracks leading up to it are quite intense. Last night I listened through the album in bed on cans and aisatsana made more sense to me. It made me feel as though the 4 tracks leading into it were like a heavy night out and then when the birdsong begins on aisatsana it was like waking up the next morning to a clear, beautiful day and taking the morning nice and slow with a coffee. It really was quite nice.

[Vaaler9]

Just a little vent: STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED MY LP FROM BLEEP. Wasn't expecting to listen to this 173 times before I get the physical.. only 97 times.

[Guest Roksen Creek]

 

here's why fanboys are annoyed with the the shit talkers here: richard reads this. you're being rude, and maybe discouraging him from further releases. and why? its not the album you wanted? find an album you like. better yet, make the album you hoped for. noone is obligated to make the album you imagined. that's insane. you're wrong to defend your right to be rude here.

 

 

in all fairness if richard is still reading this thread he should probably quit at life like many of us already have

 

 

If Richard is reading this thread then I worry for his sanity I really do.

 

Richard, stop reading, go away and make music that YOU want to.

 

lol - i think Richard doesn't care of it 'cause he has other things to do than read us... & don't dream about him for whatever!

 

 

Hi Richard

[MassfreeKid]

 

@LemanRuss, I think I partly know why you don't like this album. :) You wanted to fall in love with the Aphex you fell in love with in the 90's but he doesn't exist anymore. He's moved on. It's always weird when you meet an ex 15-20 years after the fact. The person has changed, is not the same anymore at all and sometimes, you're like how did I ever fall in love with that person?! Your love story with Aphex is changing and evolving. It has come to a halt. Now, you can accept it or keep whining about it, but in any case, it won't bring your dear Aphex Twin back. I know it's hard. Take all the time you need to grieve. Your golden days of radiant love with Richard are over. I'm sorry, buddy.

Or, it could be, you know, he just doesn't like these particular tracks?

 

 

Right, could be hehe and that's fine. I'm just trying to address Leman's issues in a polite manner.

[klabelkholosh]

Can I ask as a complete and utter idiot with regards to EDM, IDM and whatever unhelpful and non-descriptive labels people come up with for electronic music in general, what is considered 'fresh' at the moment and why? as some reviewers seem to be calling this 'good but not exactly fresh'. i don't really have the 13 years of context.

 

(it's not that I really care, syro sounds fresh to my ancient ears, I'm just curious)

[The Wumbo Man]

Any bit of music can be 'fresh' to someone if they've never heard anything like it before.

 

Imagine if you had only listened to noise music since birth, and one day turned on an Eminem track. You'd think it was the most innovative and mind blowing thing in the world.

[Aphex_Squarepusher_Twin]

 

 

here's why fanboys are annoyed with the the shit talkers here: richard reads this. you're being rude, and maybe discouraging him from further releases. and why? its not the album you wanted? find an album you like. better yet, make the album you hoped for. noone is obligated to make the album you imagined. that's insane. you're wrong to defend your right to be rude here.

 

 

in all fairness if richard is still reading this thread he should probably quit at life like many of us already have

 

 

If Richard is reading this thread then I worry for his sanity I really do.

 

Richard, stop reading, go away and make music that YOU want to.

 

lol - i think Richard doesn't care of it 'cause he has other things to do than read us... & don't dream about him for whatever!

 

 

Hi Richard

 

how do you know i'm Richard?

[klabelkholosh]

Any bit of music can be 'fresh' to someone if they've never heard anything like it before.

 

Imagine if you had only listened to noise music since birth, and one day turned on an Eminem track. You'd think it was the most innovative and mind blowing thing in the world.

 

Yeah, I definitely get that, makes sense :)

 

I just mean in the sense of it being fresh as compared to other electronic music.. as in what trends or production techniques are being used by other EDM/IDM/ICBM/WMD-type people that for whatever contrived reason sound 'fresher'. i know Richard goes for analogue more ofthen than not. I realize the whole question is relatively stupid as 'freshness' is a subjective thing and kindof meaningless as far as damn good music is involved, but i'm just wondering from what context the average music reviewer is operating from when they call Syro 'not as fresh'.

[baph]

freshness = drops, vocals about the apocalypse, and banjos

edit: and fake asses

 

aphex is so far behind the times it's not even funny

Edited September 24, 2014 by baph

[Guest Roksen Creek]

 

how do you know i'm Richard?

 

 

Look at my avatar and title dude

[Guest Chesney]

 

 

what is this? mind to share a larger image?

Yeah sorry, looks like it's engraved into the card.

 

I have never seen this before. Is it blank on the back side?

 

Glossy Charteuse. Looks screen printed.

 

Edited September 24, 2014 by Chesney

[o00o]

Anyone willing to do the math:

 

APHEX TWIN SYRO

minipops 67 (source field mix) ................ 120.2

XMAS_EVET10 (thanaton3 mix) .................... 120

produk 29....................................... 101

4 bit 9d api+e+6............................... 126.26

180db_.......................................... 130

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