The Space Thread

[Rubin Farr]

CNN airing a special tonight on Apollo 11:

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/01/entertainment/apollo-11-review/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

[Rubin Farr]

Asteroid named after Brian Eno:

https://apple.news/AAj6wYFNER6mWgAfdlHdMUw

[t yst r]

Next up: "music for asteroids"

[may be rude]

 

[Rubin Farr]

Apollo 11 rocket to be projected onto Washington monument for Moon landing anniversary:

https://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/the-rocket-that-took-humans-to-the-moon-will-be-project-1836235797?amp-aE-4Q5tQ3eToxN_Mq8c3TFfR0EfW6-GhDoRER1AmBJCCtM10o8s_MwF0zcZ6i1EM

[Rubin Farr]

[chronical]

space is potent

[Squee]

On 7/11/2019 at 4:10 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Apollo 11 rocket to be projected onto Washington monument for Moon landing anniversary:

https://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/the-rocket-that-took-humans-to-the-moon-will-be-project-1836235797?amp-aE-4Q5tQ3eToxN_Mq8c3TFfR0EfW6-GhDoRER1AmBJCCtM10o8s_MwF0zcZ6i1EM

 

lol amurica!

[Rubin Farr]

Great series, so cool to see all the updated information we've collected in just the past 20 years:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/series/planets/

who knew that Venus is hotter than Mercury?  Learned a lot of new info from this season, like once the Sun expands into a red giant, Earth might cook right at its event horizon, escaping the vaporized fates of Mercury and Venus but definitely destroying our atmosphere.  Then, a new habitable zone will be created farther out, with the probability that Titan will warm enough to support life, possibly among others.  This will last for several million years until the Sun collapses.

[may be rude]

 

not new anymore but still

[auxien]

the bits of jupiter/bits of saturn twitter bots i follow are great and always posting shots like that^

that one you've posted has been artistically enhanced i'm quite sure, but nonetheless very lovely and in general the /enhancements/ by the artists in the community are reasonable. seems to be adding some likely-real depth to the clouds, really quite a nice image

[drillkicker]

On 7/11/2019 at 10:10 AM, Rubin Farr said:

Apollo 11 rocket to be projected onto Washington monument for Moon landing anniversary:

https://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/the-rocket-that-took-humans-to-the-moon-will-be-project-1836235797?amp-aE-4Q5tQ3eToxN_Mq8c3TFfR0EfW6-GhDoRER1AmBJCCtM10o8s_MwF0zcZ6i1EM

It' going to be exactly as real as the original

[auxien]

 

[may be rude]

On 9/21/2019 at 9:21 AM, auxien said:

the bits of jupiter/bits of saturn twitter bots i follow are great and always posting shots like that^

that one you've posted has been artistically enhanced i'm quite sure, but nonetheless very lovely and in general the /enhancements/ by the artists in the community are reasonable. seems to be adding some likely-real depth to the clouds, really quite a nice image

 

the juno project was interesting in how they handled image processing. there are like 3 cameras that do different colors, and an image would be broken up into a bunch of smaller pieces that need to be assembled. the juno team provided the raw data for anyone to use their own processing techniques to compile or whatever it's called. so yeah, looking through the gallery, you see different aesthetics resulting from different approaches to compiling. 

 

some compilers do a better job than others, and they probably apply small touches to taste. i don't see any real artistic flourishes in that image, though. the clouds really do have depth. i think that shit is mostly liquids, it's like you can see through the clear "gases" at the top, and you can see the tops of vortex storms that stir up dirt or whatever from down near the core. and you can kind of see down into the depths a little in a few spots, through the clear liquid. it's called a gas giant but on jupiter its liquid.

Edited October 7, 2019 by very honest

[Nebraska]

 

[marf]

If our sun blew up we wouldn't know it for 8 minutes

[YEK]

9 hours ago, marf said:

If our sun blew up we wouldn't know it for 8 minutes

*ducks*

[Nebraska]

Quote

Astronomers just discovered 20 previously unknown Saturn moons, boosting the ringed planet's tally of known satellites to 82 — three more than Jupiter. And there's more exciting news: You can help name these newfound objects.

https://www.space.com/saturn-20-newfound-moons-naming-contest.html

[auxien]

 

[Joyrex]

On 10/8/2019 at 12:06 AM, Nebraska said:

https://www.space.com/saturn-20-newfound-moons-naming-contest.html

At some point, aren't these just fucking rocks orbiting the planet? I mean, is there a standard for classifying something as a 'moon'?

I see from the article most of these are no more than 3 miles across - big, I suppose, but what's the minimum size for something to not be considered a moon?

[YEK]

15 minutes ago, Joyrex said:

At some point, aren't these just fucking rocks orbiting the planet? I mean, is there a standard for classifying something as a 'moon'?

I see from the article most of these are no more than 3 miles across - big, I suppose, but what's the minimum size for something to not be considered a moon?

We could name one Wattem or Read the rules.

[BobDobalina]

^ my rule of thumb when it comes to planets and moons is that they at least be spherical-ish (you know, massive enough to have collapsed into shape), otherwise that shit's just a rock!

Here's another interesting one, there's a star out there that's been measured as being older than the universe - apparently certain things have come to light that call into question the value of the hubble constant:

https://www.space.com/how-can-a-star-be-older-than-the-universe.html

[may be rude]

1 hour ago, BobDobalina said:

^ my rule of thumb when it comes to planets and moons is that they at least be spherical-ish (you know, massive enough to have collapsed into shape), otherwise that shit's just a rock!

Here's another interesting one, there's a star out there that's been measured as being older than the universe - apparently certain things have come to light that call into question the value of the hubble constant:

https://www.space.com/how-can-a-star-be-older-than-the-universe.html

 

whoa. i wonder if it has to do with the speed and relativistic "time travel"

 

neil tyson goes over relativistic time travel in this recent thing. i want to know if there's a multiverse. i guess it's a standing paradox, with regard to what happens if you go back in time - have you created a new timeline? i think so. fucking space is a mess.

 

 

Edited October 22, 2019 by very honest

[Rubin Farr]

US space shuttle drone lands after 780 days in orbit:

https://apple.news/AKCQQs_YHSMClniISDr1uAQ

[ManjuShri]

China To Establish $10 Trillion Economic Zone In Space

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/china-establish-10-trillion-economic-zone-space

Having already created 12 free trade zones (with 6 more coming soon) in and around major Chinese metro areas...

 

... Beijing's next project to boost commerce is more ambitious than anything seen on earth before. Literally.

According to the Global Times, China plans to establish an Earth-moon space economic zone by 2050, which is expected to generate $10 trillion worth of services per year. The zone will cover areas of space near Earth, the moon and in between.

 

Bao Weimin, director of the Science and Technology Commission of the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation, revealed the ambitious plan at a seminar last week on the space economy, Chinese media reported Friday. CAST is a state-owned company focused on researching, making and launching carrier rockets, satellites, spacecraft and space stations. 

Perhaps because by 2050 all of China will be one giant free trade zone (even though the US Trade war will still not be over), the proposed zone will cover areas of space near Earth, the moon and in between, Weimin said, adding that companies involved in basic industries, application exploration and development will feature at the zone, which will focus on three key fields: interspace transport, space resource detection and space-based infrastructure.

 

In a report on developing earth and moon space, Bao shared his thoughts on the economic potential in this field and pledged that the country would study its reliability, cost and flight-style transportation system between the Earth and moon, The Science and Technology Daily reported Friday.

He pledged to complete basic research and make a breakthrough on key technologies before 2030 and establish the transportation system by 2040.  By 2050, China could successfully establish an earth-moon space economic zone, he said.

In other words, while the US contemplates a Green New Deal, China is set to counter with a "Space New Deal", which would likely cost tens of trillions too.

As the Global Times notes, many Chinese netizens were "thrilled" by the news, with some saying that "if I can catch a flight to the moon during the rest of my life, I would die without any regrets."

An aerospace scholar told the Global Times that by exploring earth-moon space, China can gain a lot, such as developing the space travel industry or conducting experiments on the moon.

As early as 2016, Zhang Yulin, then deputy commander-in-chief of China's manned space program, told media that they had plans to explore Earth-moon space.

In May 2018, China launched a relay satellite to set up a communications link between the Earth and the then planned Chang'e-4 lunar probe, which accomplished the first-ever soft landing on the far side of the moon in January. Chinese scientists and engineers hope the Queqiao satellite will form a communications bridge between controllers on Earth and the far side of the moon.

A model of China's robotic lunar probe Chang'e-4

Aerospace fans predicted that the plan will accelerate many important projects, including the Long March-5 carrier rocket, China's largest launch vehicle, which is expected to be used to send the Chang'e-5 probe in 2020 to bring moon samples back to Earth, and China's heavy-lift carrier rocket, the Long March-9, which is expected to make its first flight around 2030 and will support manned lunar exploration, deep space exploration and construction of a space-based solar power plant.

According to Yicai Globa, China will strive to complete its basic research in these fields by 2020, make breakthroughs in key technologies by 2030, and have a robust, low-cost space transport system in place by 2040 in order to make the zone a reality.

Needless to say, between the US "Green New Deal", and China's "Space new Deal", US and Chinese money printers will be on overdrive for the next several decades, working dilligently to inflate away the world's record debt load and in the process destroy the world's two most important fiat currencies.

China to establish $10T bubble in space, to prop up Chinese tech bubble, used to prop up Chinese housing bubble, used to prop up Chinese industrial bubble.