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How does the World view America these days?

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13 minutes ago, markedone said:

not sure if it will let me link this nyt photo, but the equiptment, and general chubbiness of these police make them look like theyre dressing up as teenage mutant ninja turtles ?

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when big things like protests and riots happen they drag every fat ass out from behind a desk and put them in riot gear. years ago i went to a union march in miami FTAA... protesting trade agreements and there were literal 300lb cops out there sweating slime like jabba... about to die in the sun and heat of mid day miami. 

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13 minutes ago, ignatius said:

when big things like protests and riots happen they drag every fat ass out from behind a desk and put them in riot gear. years ago i went to a union march in miami FTAA... protesting trade agreements and there were literal 300lb cops out there sweating slime like jabba... about to die in the sun and heat of mid day miami. 

Nothing strikes fear into the heart of a rioter like a staredown with Paul Blart Mall Cop

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this compilation of videos is... ugh.. can't even. 

 

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^yeah....i've never been an ACAB kinda guy because all is a big fucking word but that and shit like this... makes me wonder: 

has a lot to do with oversight by police unions and DA office coordination, mayors, etc., of course. systemic protection of almost any wrongs, from the ground to the top.

unless of course you happen to be a black cop who admits to overreacting and making a deadly mistake, in which case the protection and coordination seems to fail: 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/us/minneapolis-mohamed-noor-sentenced/index.html

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shit is crazy everywhere. 

miami style

 

here's a link to a bunch of twitter posts. some i posted above. 

the top story at link is graphic and hard to watch. apparently a dude charged protestors/looters with a sword and they beat him badly.  he was trying to defend a store or something.. not his store.. just some store. i guess he didn't study the blade enough. i know.. that was low hanging fruit. 

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/dallas-man-beaten-stoned-and-left-for-dead-by-rioters/

it's fucking rough. crowds can be brutal as fuck. 

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This shit is getting depressing. I wish more cities would follow Camden NJ's example. 

(I vaguely remember us driving thru there as a family when I was a kid.)

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regarding ACAB.. i have the same problem  with the word ALL.. my brother was a cop for 15 years in a small district in miami. some of his cop buddies were idiots some were A+ people who just wanted to help people.  90% of what my brother had to deal with was conflict resolution during domestic violence situations and dealign with drunk idiots and people who shouldn't be driving. 

but why i think ACAB has weight is because cops so rarely break ranks. it's fear that if that one bad cop get's punished then things will be harder for all the other cops.. or something.. a post i read recently summed it up simply.. if you have 10 bad cops and 1000 good cops but the 1000 good cops don't turn in the 10 bad cops then you basically have 1010 bad cops. 

and cops have a pretty good union. i think there's a difference between a cop who makes a mistake in an instant and a bad cop who is out to fuck people up. 

and i think in situations like this.. riots.. when they're amped up and out en masse that they give in to shitty nature/behavior and they want to take out their anger or frustration or just be fucking meat heads. i think the same happens in the military. 

a good example of that kind of thing is the 10 episode series "Generation Kill" which was done by the guy who did The Wire.. David Simon... it's about the marines who bee lined to bahgdad in the gulf war. some of the actors are the marines playing themselves. really shows the "some of them are best and brightest and some are total morons" type thing. 

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8 minutes ago, timbre monke said:

This shit is getting depressing. I wish more cities would follow Camden NJ's example. 

(I vaguely remember us driving thru there as a family when I was a kid.)

they have a pretty high murder rate. real gun problem. it's one of those places like parts of chicago where there's lot's of gun violence. it's savy of their police to join the marches on side of the protestors. cops walking a beat and getting to know the neighborhood and residents used to be the way to do it but hasn't been that way in america for a long time. 

it is depressing. 

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Just now, ignatius said:

they have a pretty high murder rate. real gun problem. it's one of those places like parts of chicago where there's lot's of gun violence. it's savy of their police to join the marches on side of the protestors. cops walking a beat and getting to know the neighborhood and residents used to be the way to do it but hasn't been that way in america for a long time. 

it is depressing. 

Yeah even in the mid-90s that was the case apparently. My dad acted like we were about to traverse a cease fire zone or something at the time.

I had to look up the acronym ACAB just now because I'm a dummy. And yes, it is an easy mindset to fall into. But I also think it's a bit of an unfair stereotype, because the good cops never get as much attention as the bad ones these days. I feel like America is long overdue for a systemic overhaul in police training. We need law. We need order. But we don't need shitty, psychotic, unprofessional thugs under the guise thereof.

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must watch. 

 

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Can you US folks please get this guy to run for next president and vote him.

 

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You got people richer than some world countries sending rockets into space and competing who can make a better business model out of it.

On the other side you have people enraged and desperate over inequality and injustice, who need to be heard but no one listens.

The news happen on the same day.

Yep. Going full-speed into dystopia.

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35 minutes ago, Psychotronic said:

Can you US folks please get this guy to run for next president and vote him.

 

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he was born in South Africa, can't do it. that's a good perspective on things as he usually offers, tho. 

18 minutes ago, cichlisuite said:

You got people richer than some world countries sending rockets into space and competing who can make a better business model out of it.

On the other side you have people enraged and desperate over inequality and injustice, who need to be heard but no one listens.

The news happen on the same day.

Yep. Going full-speed into dystopia.

yup.

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https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-05-30/dont-understand-the-protests-what-youre-seeing-is-people-pushed-to-the-edge

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Then you notice the black faces looting Target and you think, “Well, that just hurts their cause.” Then you see the police station on fire and you wag a finger saying, “That’s putting the cause backward.”

You’re not wrong — but you’re not right, either. The black community is used to the institutional racism inherent in education, the justice system and jobs. And even though we do all the conventional things to raise public and political awareness — write articulate and insightful pieces in the Atlantic, explain the continued devastation on CNN, support candidates who promise change — the needle hardly budges.

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So, maybe the black community’s main concern right now isn’t whether protesters are standing three or six feet apart or whether a few desperate souls steal some T-shirts or even set a police station on fire, but whether their sons, husbands, brothers and fathers will be murdered by cops or wannabe cops just for going on a walk, a jog, a drive. Or whether being black means sheltering at home for the rest of their lives because the racism virus infecting the country is more deadly than COVID-19.

 

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More police doing the right thing:

 

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seeing that store owner get killed was brutal

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7 minutes ago, marf said:

seeing that store owner get killed was brutal

the guy who charged the looters with a sword? that video is super brutal. did he die? last i heard he was just badly injured. also, wasn't his store he was just attempting to defend it for some reason when he charged with a sword. a fuckign sword.

 

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14 minutes ago, marf said:

seeing that store owner get killed was brutal

the dude with a sword? he went to the hospital, he lived. couldn't wait to get his ass back on Twitter ASAP and get some exposure, but now he closed his account apparently. the people kicking his ass seemed to have a good handle on how to kick someone's ass without killing them, because they sure could've easily killed him if they'd wanted. but they weren't reckless assholes like cops or something, they practiced some amount of restraint.

protecting a bar he loves. 

for Christ.

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I dont know. He had a green shirt on. 

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