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An interesting idea, despite the academic criticism- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss–Howe_generational_theory

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The Strauss–Howe generational theory, also known as the Fourth Turning theory or simply the Fourth Turning, describes a theorized recurring generation cycle in American history and global history. It was devised by William Strauss and Neil Howe. According to the theory, historical events are associated with recurring generational personas (archetypes). Each generational persona unleashes a new era (called a turning) lasting around 20–22 years, in which a new social, political, and economic climate exists. They are part of a larger cyclical "saeculum" (a long human life, which usually spans between 80 and 90 years, although some saecula have lasted longer). The theory states that after every saeculum, a crisis recurs in American history, which is followed by a recovery (high). During this recovery, institutions and communitarian values are strong. Ultimately, succeeding generational archetypes attack and weaken institutions in the name of autonomy and individualism, which ultimately creates a tumultuous political environment that ripens conditions for another crisis.

 

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51 minutes ago, ignatius said:

 

lot's of destruction meandering around in this one. at the end of the clip the guy is kind of panicked a bit and trying to leave.. a guy tells him he should leave because they beat up some white people.  lot's of rage pouring out

Man you don't burn the courthouses - that causes extra unhappiness in your citizens until the city is restored to normal.

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13 hours ago, auxien said:

the dude with a sword? he went to the hospital, he lived. couldn't wait to get his ass back on Twitter ASAP and get some exposure, but now he closed his account apparently. the people kicking his ass seemed to have a good handle on how to kick someone's ass without killing them, because they sure could've easily killed him if they'd wanted. but they weren't reckless assholes like cops or something, they practiced some amount of restraint.

protecting a bar he loves. 

for Christ.

 

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I mean it would be ironic if POC owned any of those cars.  For certain though, burning them will surely open the eyes of the rich to the struggles of the proletariat, and not in any way galvanize them against the poor. Definitely not. 

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8 hours ago, chenGOD said:

I mean it would be ironic if POC owned any of those cars.  For certain though, burning them will surely open the eyes of the rich to the struggles of the proletariat, and not in any way galvanize them against the poor. Definitely not. 

its a class struggle too, a race struggle is just one of its manifestations.  a primarily all-black upper class town which managed itself would not suffer from police profiling or other shit unless outsiders venture in.  similar can be said if you modify the ratios

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1 minute ago, Zeffolia said:

its a class struggle, a race struggle is just one of its manifestations.  an all-black upper class neighborhood which managed itself would not suffer from police profiling

You'd like to think so.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/tulsa-race-massacre-1921-99th-anniversary-trnd/index.html

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8 minutes ago, Zeffolia said:

its a class struggle too, a race struggle is just one of its manifestations.  a primarily all-black upper class town which managed itself would not suffer from police profiling or other shit unless outsiders venture in.  similar can be said if you modify the ratios

You don’t think rich black people look down on poor black people? Have you never seen the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air?

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3 minutes ago, chenGOD said:

You don’t think rich black people look down on poor black people? Have you never seen the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air?

how does this sentence contradict anything I said? you just gave an example that suggests it's about class more than race in that scenario

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You said an upper class well managed all black neighborhood wouldn’t have profiling. I’m telling you they would. 
Burning those cars is unproductive for any number of reasons, but mostly because it puts the people who can actually do something about systemic racism (those with wealth) in an antagonistic mindframe. 

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35 minutes ago, Zeffolia said:

its a class struggle too, a race struggle is just one of its manifestations.  a primarily all-black upper class town which managed itself would not suffer from police profiling or other shit unless outsiders venture in.  similar can be said if you modify the ratios

 

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27 minutes ago, chenGOD said:

You said an upper class well managed all black neighborhood wouldn’t have profiling. I’m telling you they would. 
Burning those cars is unproductive for any number of reasons, but mostly because it puts the people who can actually do something about systemic racism (those with wealth) in an antagonistic mindframe. 

you didn't read my entire example clearly.  also I edited my post, possibly after you saw it, to say town

and those people won't do anything to help anyway they have directly differing incentives

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17 minutes ago, Zeffolia said:

you didn't read my entire example clearly.  also I edited my post, possibly after you saw it, to say town

and those people won't do anything to help anyway they have directly differing incentives

“Those people”? Damn...that sounds pretty uhhh...

I thought the race struggle was part of it? Ah only poor POC are impacted by racism. Got it. 

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1 hour ago, chenGOD said:

“Those people”? Damn...that sounds pretty uhhh...

I thought the race struggle was part of it? Ah only poor POC are impacted by racism. Got it. 

"Those people" was directed towards "those with wealth" if you're implying it's racist

No shit race is part of it.  But what is a big part of why race is capable of being part of it?  Because black people are disproportionate victims of violence, and this includes economic violence

You either are unaware of these things or arguing in bad faith, either way it's not worth my time

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So do you think burning rich black peoples cars is more or less likely to help POC overcome systemic racism? Explain your answer. 

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