digman Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 A pretty comprehensive run down of what we are getting outside of price http://thesynthesizersympathizer.blogspot.com/2015/07/full-yamaha-reface-line-spec-leak.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bitroast Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 hhMMMHMMMmmmm... From the description for the Yamaha CS.. "Provide various types of synthesis and the physical oscillator analog modeling engine." sounds/looking more like roland AIRA range here ? think i might stick with tx81z + external controller (assuming i can put it together no problem) for now .. maybe .. we'll see. not 100% sold yet. what is this .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audioblysk Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 Huh. Well, I guess I'll have to hear it. My initial reaction is confusion... these seem hilariously under-powered and lacking tons of features to compete with the marketplace. I like that the DX is easier to dive into, but being a 4-op and being digital (already have a better digital yamaha), I don't see the need to get it aside from ease of editing. I don't understand the hate for mini-keys. What, does everyone have sausage fingers or something?! If an instrument is going to have 8 voices I want a keyboard that I can properly play on. Mini keys are great for messing about and cutting cost, but when it comes to chords and fast runs, mini-keys are a fucking pain for someone who learned on full sized keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) The cs is just a va synth with a handful of sliders and no display for deeper editing. I guess it will be like a Gaia, although much more limited as far as editing is concerned. There doesn't seem to be any memory banks either? Edited July 7, 2015 by Gocab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digman Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Webcast is live boys https://yamahasynth.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=109&Itemid=927 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 flol what is this shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bitroast Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 and lol not in a good way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digman Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 "VERY EDGEY, CUTTING EDGE EDM SOUNDS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Well, the dx seems OK. Jesus, the touch controls seem busted, why not stick sliders on there instead? Edited July 7, 2015 by Gocab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bitroast Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Well, the dx seems OK. Jesus, the touch controls seem busted, why not stick sliders on there instead? yeah seriously. he seemed to be struggling ??? maybe using 4 fingers all at once isn't a good idea. either way, why have weird interface on something that just needs a good interface and OMG these demos are so terrible hahaha. "FM synth with classic 80s and EDM sound". glad the EDM sound is got covered :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Get out of here with the social media stuff, so stupid. Ohmy that girl looks very uncomfortable. Edited July 7, 2015 by Gocab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chesney Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 But Jesus, they all sound so fucking good. I could play the Rhodes and wurli (badly) all day. The cs has that cs osc sound even if the res seems to go higher. The dx is crystal. Not heard the other yet. Which vids are you lot watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bitroast Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Is the price tag really £347 per synth ?? That seems tad under ~double what i was expecting ???????????? @ches/ was watching livestream https://yamahasynth.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=109&Itemid=927 Maybe you can backtrack / find youtubes of live stream ? Edited July 7, 2015 by bitroast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chesney Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I watched some funny goon called dr mix. Showed them off really well. It has sold them to me, even if I don't use them in any projects I will get a lot of playing fun from them. Not looked at price but you are getting a lot of mileage from these. The sounds are spot on as far as I can tell. Only drawback is the mini keys. Good for messing but at least you can control them with bigger keys when need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Sonicstate have a bunch of reface vids up now. I like how in the CS vid, when asked to demonstrate how the bottom end sounds, the demo guy produces some midtone farts and calls it a day. Oh and it uses AN technology... so I guess same synth engine as the an1x late 90s synth? That's kind of vintage! Edited July 7, 2015 by Gocab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 but being a 4-op and being digital (already have a better digital yamaha), I don't see the need to get it aside from ease of editing. What is the benefit of an analog FM synth? Do they even exist? FM is enough of a nightmare already, I wouldn't want oscillator drift to fuck up any precise patches I'd come up with. I watched the sonicstate dx showcase, sounds fkn awesome. Not sure if it's $700 awesome, but I might have to actually test one to see how it feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Holy Shit, it's $700? They're having a laugh. The DX I would probably go for if it was a lot cheaper. Edited July 7, 2015 by Gocab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bitroast Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 yeah, i saw a website covering todays reveal and mentioned £347 per synth, which either seems wrong or is way over priced imo!!! ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Yeah, that price is listed on sonicstate as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bitroast Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 the sonicstate dx demo is definitely looking better. i'm getting the feeling yamaha have terrible pr guys cos holy shit these demos are prettty, pretty terrible. but the sonicstate one ventured into ok territory :) still, harsh price. but not hating on it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 if these were like $250, i'd buy all of 'em except the organ (even though that looks decent.........for a fucking organ) i've gone back and forth on these in the last hour i really like the Yamaha AN1X (which is what the CS guts are based on) which is funny because I was saying a couple weeks ago: "a nice little AN1X would be nice" thing can nail the CS brass sound even though it was marketed as a Trance Machine but ~$550usd is a bit much I think the DX and the CP look decent it'd be nice to have a compact little Rhodes for Bitches Brew or Music Is Rotted One Note vibes but i just wish these were a little cheaper i think at $350-400 I'd instantly play eenie-meenie-miney-moe and buy one (but not the organ of course lol) anyway, watmm asked for a little DX and they got a little DX and so what, now you don't want a little DX? I thought you said you wanted a little DX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 nice poetic post I would definitely buy one if they were ~$400AU, but I'd probably get a nord drum instead considering they're under $600.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peace 7 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) WHoa..... So right now I'm watching the Yamaha Reface vid and realized...: I'm watching Japanese people speaking second-language English, for a Japanese company product launch, in an English language promo video, whilst I sit in Tokyo, in an office space surrounded by native Japanese people, as a Japanese who speaks first-language English, drinking the Japanese version of Monster Energy drink. I'm tripping so hard right now. And no, I'm not gonna buy these $47,000 high-end toys. In a couple years at ~$250, they might be aiiight. Wanna play these in person, though. It's weird how everyone on the left side of the screen is tweaking. Edited July 8, 2015 by peace 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pixelives Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Garbage. CS sounds nothing like a CS80 they were touting in the teasers, more like a poly CS 01. Guess that's to be expected, though. Might pick up the dx in a few years when they're rock bottom. Terrible teaser campaign for terrible product. They must know this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pixelives Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Interesting to note how badly the big three Japanese companies have awkwardly fumbled PR and launches of late. So incredibly awkward, almost to the level of a parody of Japanese corporate style. Korg has fared slightly better but they have that UK educated young guy pushing things.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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