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3 minutes ago, psn said:

Doesn't look like it! 

Manual says "expected control range is 0V to +5V" so I think this makes it Eurorack compatible, unless there are some insanely different amperages going on?

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1 hour ago, thawkins said:

Manual says "expected control range is 0V to +5V" so I think this makes it Eurorack compatible, unless there are some insanely different amperages going on?

Ah, yeah see! Thought you meant three unit rack compatible size. 

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Yeah I don't have a rack, I just have two pieces of Eurorack compatible gear that are gathering dust - Kastle and KOMA Field Kit

This looks like it could pair nicely with them. Build looks complicated though, and the guy's saying things about testing, hah I don't even own a multimeter.

:catrage:

 

Yeah I know I should just get started and figure out things on the way.

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Well, I took the money I made from selling the Mother32 that was going to go toward converting that old road case into a big Eurorack case and, for what it would have cost me to get jsut the rails and related hardware, instead picked up a Loudestwarning format 4u boat with power distribution PCB (but no PSU) and the boards, panel and mounting bracket to build the CGS version of the Serge Stepped and Smooth Generator.  Other than the power supply, DIY Serge is more affordable than Eurorack and it's really what I want to be working with.  Even after diving in as hard as I could afford on Eurorack a few months back I still absolutely hare the form factor and the flimsy little jacks.  You can do a lot with it and there are a ton of great sounding, innovative modules out there but I still just don't enjoy working with it like I do with 1/4" and banana gear, and the whole Serge philosophy of low level modules that can perform a lot of functions (the SSG, depending on how you patch it, can be a slew processor, LFO, envelope follower, simple envelope generator, and a bunch of other stuff. So the little (I think it's 2x84hp but I haven't actually counted) case I got as payment for designing a simple footswitch-controlled gate generator last year is going to keep being my dedicated guitar (and other audio but mostly guitar so far) processing rig and I'll slowly build up the Serge panel I was planning last winter (kind of a hybrid between the standard Eidelweiss and Animal panels) a module at a time. Maybe design a 4u panel for the Klee sequencer next spring and stick one of those in a second boat if I have the money (the way things are going this could all be moot in a few months since I have no idea when my regular editing work that usually funds 1-2 big projects per year will come back).

 

Meanwhile, I'm slowing down on DIY for a month or two, once I've got the last two modules I've bee woring on finished (waiting for a missing part for one, and the other is the Mind Reader that's mostly done but the gate output is still messed up) becasue it's been taking up so much of my free time I've hardly sat down to work on music (not counting collaborations, I've been doignthat a lot more lately) in a couple months.  Time to really use the stuff I've built.

 

That's the big danger of DIY for me, really - it's so satisfying to build stuff that it can get in the way of using the stuff I build.

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Yeah, I was building a lot for a while, that period didn't result in much music. 

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In terms of pure hours and drive space I'm really prolific right now, but it's all 90 minute remote jams (a bit over 20 of them in the last two months) so far.  Sitting down and working on finished solo tracks not so much.

 

It doesn't help that in the last 6 months I've built more stuff than I have table space to set up all at once.

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16 minutes ago, TubularCorporation said:

In terms of pure hours and drive space I'm really prolific right now, but it's all 90 minute remote jams (a bit over 20 of them in the last two months) so far.  Sitting down and working on finished solo tracks not so much.

 

It doesn't help that in the last 6 months I've built more stuff than I have table space to set up all at once.

Have you considered building a table too? 🙂

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1 hour ago, thawkins said:

Have you considered building a table too? 🙂

That's what I filled up.

 

I didn't exactly build it from scratch (I'm not in any way set up to do woodworking beyond drilling holes and basic hand tool stuff - even making something like a record cube would be a big challenge) but I got an off brand wire cart a few years ago and made a solid top for it from a cheap countertop I got in the discount leftover parts area at the local Ikea (seriously best place for cheap tabletops and legs) and added slowly to that as I needed to, so now it had a laptop/drum machine stand, a patch cable rack, and a headphone holder (heavy steel bed leg I also got at the Ikea bin) so it's kind of a mobile tabletop gear rig, but it's only about 2/3 of a meter deep and a meter wide. It has just enough space for the little Eurorack case, the Octatrack, a small preamp, and on more piece of gear up on the laptop stand (right now it's the old Boss BE-5 multieffects pedal).  Anything else I use that isn't rackmount has to go on keyboard stands with boards sitting on them, or cheap folding TV trays if I want to use it.

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Both of the modules I was working on this week, that are pretty integral to what I'm even using the little Eurorack for, are problematic (the Mindreader is actually getting worse, something intermittent is happening but it didn't work and then it worked fine for about 10 minutes and then everything but the gate worked for 3 days and now the entire rack won't power up if it's installed, and basically the only thing that's changing is I'm moving it around, but even if I find whatever else is worn there's still the gate problem) and the Dubldeca works fine electroncially as far as I can tell but won't recognize incoming MIDI and I've meticulously gone through and tried everything that everyone else who has posted about having the same problem has done and none of it worked so who knows.  Hopefully just a firmware issue but I'm at a brick wall, and I had to actually temporarily retire the entire Eurorack setup until I get them worked out because what I need it for right now relies on those specific modules, and frankly it's generally getting in the way of making music more than it's helping make music, so I am back to using a couple of semimodular boxes in its place and it's already way better, soundwise and in terms of ergonomics.  It already felt like I was struggling against everything being too small and fiddly to begin with, so this is just the last straw for the time being.  I'll revive it eventually but for now I just want to actually make music.

 

Not going to stop me making some Serge stuff this winter, though.

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Also I'm getting way more in to a sample based workflow again and if I'm going t put any more money into anything in the next couple months it's a nice stand for the MPC and replacements for a few janky buttons, so I can focus on

 

-sample in MPC

-build a pattern from samples

-sample a loop of that pattern into the Octatrack and crossfade to the loop

-do more sampling into the MPC

-repeat

-when there are enough sampled things, record MIDI and then track everything out live for mixing (or do it all in real time as a performance) so I can use all of the good things about the MPC and Octatrack while having them covering each other's weaknesses.  That's been my plan for a while but dipping a toe in Eurorack got in the way.

 

EDIT: After tonight's Ninjam session I'm 100% confident this is the right move.

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