Silent Member Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I think people have been doing this successfully using usb to midi interfaces for the iPad? I'm unable to verify this though, may be a tall tale from yonder.Yeah, possibly. But again, I have no use for an ipad in a live setup other than that so it'd be a waste of my money.Without the iPad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kausto Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 That jammed HPF label on JU-06 makes it look like a freeware VST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychotronic Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Mo pix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audioblysk Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (looks for SQUEAL knob) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychotronic Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 (looks for SQUEAL knob) Must be the two touch sliders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peace 7 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 BTW, what does Boutique signify? According to the Japanese Roland site, these are going to be sold exclusively at womens shoe shops. Also, it's amazing how much Roland's concept resembles what many prolly imagined Yamaha Reface could be. I wonder which company played spy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychotronic Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 I wonder which company played spy... They just looked at the sales for the korg volcas and ms-20s, that started it. Now clavia needs to join the game, that fucking NL3 on my desk is muuuuuuuuch to big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 i think i want the jupe will have to hear it but the fact that it's only 4-voice is a good sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 pretty good prices and they look slick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerWaschbar Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 depends on components used and whether it's smd and that. the dude from oldcrow sells a set of boards to build a 4 voice obx clone and it works out to about $1000-$1500 in parts. this is a p much all discrete design, so there aren't any real expensive semiconductors in there or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b born droid Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 For the price this is tempting enough to check out the sound. Take it there's been no vids yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Nah, not yet. I wonder if these synth emulations will be available to the system 1 users as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 depends on components used and whether it's smd and that. the dude from oldcrow sells a set of boards to build a 4 voice obx clone and it works out to about $1000-$1500 in parts. this is a p much all discrete design, so there aren't any real expensive semiconductors in there or anything. The korg volca showed us That analog polys can be done for super cheap ($150usd) What would it look like If Roland made a $400-500 analog poly? I don't get why they don't do this Just make the best one you can make that you would still make bank from And everyone will buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The korg volca showed usThat analog polys can be done for super cheap ($150usd) Not a poly, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The korg volca showed us That analog polys can be done for super cheap ($150usd) Not a poly, though. Volca keys is indeed a poly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The korg volca showed us That analog polys can be done for super cheap ($150usd) Not a poly, though. Volca keys is indeed a poly No, it isn't. The three oscillators share a single filter and a single VCA, which means it's paraphonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Sure we do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The korg volca showed us That analog polys can be done for super cheap ($150usd) Not a poly, though. Volca keys is indeed a poly No, it isn't. The three oscillators share a single filter and a single VCA, which means it's paraphonic. You are technically correct that it is paraphonic But so is the Mono/Poly I don't care too much about the semantics here I really just care about playing chords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah, having three times as much circuitry for filters, VCAs, filter envelopes and VCA envelopes costs a fair bit more from a manufacturing viewpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 again, see my post for why the volca series is a bad comparison here. they're just not as complex as these, and being paraphonic is a big deal Okay Then take the Mono/Poly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah, having three times as much circuitry for filters, VCAs, filter envelopes and VCA envelopes costs a fair bit more from a manufacturing viewpoint. yes, but you can build a proper 3-voice poly synth out of three volca keys. you'd have tons of leftover pieces and it'd still be cheaper than what an analogue poly is supposed to cost (but definitely more than i'd pay, mind.) maybe adding a filter envelope and decay and sustain steps would really drive the price up? i mean, i know nothing about electronics but a $300, non-para, volca looks feasible to me. anyway, those rolands look awesome and the airas sounded pretty convincing, so i'm excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I think people have been doing this successfully using usb to midi interfaces for the iPad? I'm unable to verify this though, may be a tall tale from yonder.Yeah, possibly. But again, I have no use for an ipad in a live setup other than that so it'd be a waste of my money.Without the iPad!But my point is, why do we need a converter? Modern synths still have DIN-MIDI as the only way to connect to a controller without a computer or USB-MIDI converter in between.For example, the volca synths. Hey cool, they've got a DIN-MIDI input! Let's look at Korg's similarly small line of MIDI controllers (assume you have slim modey fingers and are ok with mini keys). Oh hey the micro key range is great! But oh, what's that? USB only? And Korg don't even make a USB-MIDI to DIN-MIDI converter so they're not even trying to cash in, it doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entorwellian Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The korg volca showed usThat analog polys can be done for super cheap ($150usd) Not a poly, though. There is software and methods of tricking the volca to play each oscillator independently when its respective note-on/note-off's are decoupled, instead of all three notes re-triggering when you change one or two of the notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 p sure that's a feature on the bass. and for the fourteenth time, there is only one filter for all the voices on the volcas. paraphonic. yeah, using volca control. actually you don't need any extra software at all as long as you don't mind being limited to the onboard sequencer - you can get some pretty crazy sequences! shame you can't control the volume of the individual oscillators, though. but as i said, three volcas cost $450 - you don't need all the parts in all three, just the EG's and the filters, so it looks like a proper volca poly for $300-ish isn't impossible, unless fitting it all in the same box drives the cost up somehow. of course it'd have D/R envelopes and no dedicated filter EG, which I'd kinda expect at that price point, so the point is moot I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerWaschbar Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 if the old synth market continues to skyrocket then we might see what you guys are wanting. at this point there are still so many cheap vintage paraphonics and stringers it would be hard to compete imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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