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Yeah Elseq in its current form is kind of all over the place and one of their weaker releases (for me anyway).

Cutting and editing it into a more standard format (like an LP and accompanying EP) puts it right up there with their best though.

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On 8/25/2021 at 1:36 AM, yekker said:

So is it most people's opinion that the live stuff is better than elseq and nts? 

As far as new stuff goes, new being exai and newer, I'd like to know what I should be checking out because I've kinda been ignoring ae for a bit and tonight I decided I want to get back into the stuff.

I dunno if I'd say the live stuff is better (I'd say it's all good) but it's a good reference point for a lot of the stuff on Elseq and NTS. I would just pick one or two of the live sets (from each era - 14/15 and 16/18), maybe with relatively far-apart dates if you're interested in seeing how the sets developed over time.  As for elseq/NTS, I would generally pick a track or two at a time since they are so immense. That's pretty much how I've done it because even as a diehard fan these releases have taken years to really sink in - this has been the Summer Of Elseq for me lol, I guess it took that long, because I had a lot of the same criticisms people have mentioned here, but in the end it has a ton of character and depth and is just as meticulously crafted as anything that came before it. NTS will take awhile because the tracks are immense and there's a lot of what some might consider filler, things stretch out even more than they did on elseq and feel looser/jammier and more spacious.  SIGN and PLUS are pretty accessible but again have that "deep listening" effect where things are not quite as they seem, particularly SIGN.   But, tldr tbh imo if you haven't even heard Exai yet then start with that lol

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1 hour ago, toaoaoad said:

I dunno if I'd say the live stuff is better (I'd say it's all good) but it's a good reference point for a lot of the stuff on Elseq and NTS. I would just pick one or two of the live sets (from each era - 14/15 and 16/18), maybe with relatively far-apart dates if you're interested in seeing how the sets developed over time.  As for elseq/NTS, I would generally pick a track or two at a time since they are so immense. That's pretty much how I've done it because even as a diehard fan these releases have taken years to really sink in - this has been the Summer Of Elseq for me lol, I guess it took that long, because I had a lot of the same criticisms people have mentioned here, but in the end it has a ton of character and depth and is just as meticulously crafted as anything that came before it. NTS will take awhile because the tracks are immense and there's a lot of what some might consider filler, things stretch out even more than they did on elseq and feel looser/jammier and more spacious.  SIGN and PLUS are pretty accessible but again have that "deep listening" effect where things are not quite as they seem, particularly SIGN.   But, tldr tbh imo if you haven't even heard Exai yet then start with that lol

Thanks Toadddd 👍

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there's a run of a few tracks at a time in elseq that are wicked then something i find less interesting then another run of amazing stuff.. . and overall.. like pretty much any ae release the more time you spend w/it the more you get out of it. ymmv

if you're going to jump in the live stuff i'd recommend the Krakow and orlando sets from 2015 and the dublin and helsinki sets from the one six 2016/18 

there's some good variations in a lot of them though. 

 

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  • 4 weeks later...

Already six years since the North America tour. Still mesmerized by the last three minutes of the Seattle set. Of course being there IRL was an experience like no other - one that I may never see/hear again.

However, Ae still manage to surprise us in one way or another, such is their tradition.

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When I saw Ae on this tour I was very excited and it remains the only time (so far, fingers crossed for more in the future) I've seen the lads live. Now while I was certainly thrilled to see my favourite musicians performing an incredible live set the night of was lackluster. This was in no part due to the brothers 'chre however, and was in fact that of the people who manage and run the Phoenix Entertainment Centre. Neither was the venue dark enough nor the music clear or loud enough. I am over the moon that they released soundboards for this tour, because it meant that in most important respects, I was better able to enjoy the music from that night better after the fact.

And holy shit is this ever a great set.  It might feel trite at this point to say so for the millionth time, but I can't help it: it's incredible not to mention rare that a musical act delivers so much of its best material a quarter century to thirty years into its career.

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20 hours ago, splesh said:

When I saw Ae on this tour I was very excited and it remains the only time (so far, fingers crossed for more in the future) I've seen the lads live. Now while I was certainly thrilled to see my favourite musicians performing an incredible live set the night of was lackluster. This was in no part due to the brothers 'chre however, and was in fact that of the people who manage and run the Phoenix Entertainment Centre. Neither was the venue dark enough nor the music clear or loud enough. I am over the moon that they released soundboards for this tour, because it meant that in most important respects, I was better able to enjoy the music from that night better after the fact.

And holy shit is this ever a great set.  It might feel trite at this point to say so for the millionth time, but I can't help it: it's incredible not to mention rare that a musical act delivers so much of its best material a quarter century to thirty years into its career.

which city was it at? im a little too lazy to look up rn lol sorry

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