Herr Jan Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 First listen at the moment, love it all ready. Man this weekend is so good, yesterday my Bytes vinyl was finaly delivered, so today is full on Plaid day :D Happy times @ Herr Jan: Did you go to the Plaid with Gamelan orchestra gig in Amsterdam last month? How was it? I wanted to go, but nobody was interested in joining me and I didn't want to by myself :( And guys, don't worry for not having the fanboyish things in this subforum. We don't have to scroll through pages of off-topic fanboy bantering ;) Yup, that was the gig! It was really deece, I would've easily gone by myself. It was a nice seated gig, really chill atmosphere in the venue. Next time just hit me up if there's a thing like this :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsil303 Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Cheers, will do! I didn't really mind being there on my own, although i'd prefer enjoying it with friends. It was more the 2 hour drive from the souht of NL and back home that prevented me from going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexagon hun Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Sounds like a banger to me Nulls? Yeah it is, I'm still looking and will get it to ya if I can find the track, frustrating.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugsey Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Just had my 4th listen since picking it up on Friday (they had it in stock on Thursday but wouldn't/couldn't sell me it). Loving it all. There seems to be a lot of guitar on this album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chesney Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Holy shit, the bee is so polarising. I hated it at first but now i'm banging it on beefy stereo I find my self bum bouncing on the sofa to it. That bassline in the second half is fun as fuck. Nothing rude about the bum bouncing mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonside Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 no word about a US tour yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magdog Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Holy shit, the bee is so polarising. I hated it at first but now i'm banging it on beefy stereo I find my self bum bouncing on the sofa to it. That bassline in the second half is fun as fuck. Nothing rude about the bum bouncing mind. Mate i love 'the bee'... maybe my favourite track on the album so far. This is amazing stuff! Plaid have managed to add the perfect amount black dog vibe to the mix remaining fresh and strange at the same time. The beauty of this album has really begun to open up to me now i'm over those short sighted expectations that come with a new release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonside Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 im jelly https://twitter.com/Plaid/status/742171039925477376 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chesney Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 ooh nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 It's nice. It's really good. But it's 100% Plaid. My thoughts about Plaid are always positive, but they are lacking a few things. Someone mentioned here, they have a disadvantage to become as #1 as Ae/RDJ, because of their name. I beg to differ. My conclusion: They are the status quo, but not more. Ae/RDJ bring the business forward. Plaid: - Their music is not challenging - No evolutionary step of development in music - Some missed opportunities. Always those 4 tone melodies. Why not more interesting? Oh, looks like I'm a party pooper. I really like their music, but often find myself turning them on as some nice background music. And P.S.: nothing beats TBD Spanners album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonside Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 hmm, these days i'm less concerned with music being "challenging" or not.. on the one hand its a personal quality; without knowing my experience you have no way of judging what i would consider challenging. on the other, we live in a time where albums like elseq, syro and digging remedy can feel unsurprising or even conventional in some ways, while they may have sounded quite challenging to people only 10 years ago. ultimately there are more other qualities that are more important and probably more useful to discuss. i agree that spanners was a good one, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magdog Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 To be both challenging and relaxing at the same time is quite a task. Although not challenging, TDR is relaxing and that i'm happy with. Just listen, from the days of The Black Dog and break beat, Mbuki Mvuki and samples, Warp and so called IDM, working with vocal talents, film scores, up to the present day using and mastering digital equipment. I think the Plaid guys have done more than enough over the past nearly 30 years to keep the evolutionists happy. I agree, nothing beats Spanners :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atypic Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Spanners was my favorite album for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magdog Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Still mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Reading my own posting above, it seems so negative. I mean, I am thankful for their output, world without "Masato Shuffle" would be sad :) ... My point is: Their music is more pleasing. And less about confrontation and provocation. -> Reasons, why others are more successful/ create more hype and buzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chesney Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I agree and disagree. It's the opposite to say Autechre. Ae are challenging at first but then you start to hear the structure and make your own hooks in the seemingly random. Plaid are accessible straight away and that can seem just nice, bland or even boring right off the bat. It's when you listen more things start to get stranger and you start to hear how the melody's are constructed and how they sit within the beats that become way more interesting. Then all of a sudden you are loving it. I think that's why I like them so much and regard them highly. And of course, I am not saying that they are geniuses or ultra prog mentalists, just they make just great music that is more appreciative over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I wish they would release more. Looking at the soundcloud dump, elseq, and ae-live Plaid releasing about an hour of music ever two years feels not very impressive. one the other hand its just context and I am happy on what I got. Its a great release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexagon hun Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 So while they're not trying to ever do the same album twice, they still manage to stay within the "plaid boundaries" without pissing off loyal fans or going outside the blueprint too far either. Is Spokes the most non-plaid LP of the lot? IMO these last 3 LPs have an almost trilogy feel to them, companions almost.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magdog Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 IMO these last 3 LPs have an almost trilogy feel to them, companions almost.. Been playing the last three albums together the past few days and had the same trilogy idea.. they do fit together rather neatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonside Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 they've also released about eight hours of remixes! good to keep those in mind while considering their career, some of their best work is in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 they've also released about eight hours of remixes! good to keep those in mind while considering their career, some of their best work is in there. 8hs? Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonside Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 they've also released about eight hours of remixes! good to keep those in mind while considering their career, some of their best work is in there. 8hs? Where? i don't mean recently, just.. over the past 20 some years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Melifer is coming out as a favourite on this release Simple classic Plaid tones but still very captivating Majority of the album is still needing to grow on me. It's interesting how they're using guitar on this album to create an easy listening experience. To me it doesn't flow too well as an album e.g. CLOCK is totally out of place. That sound palette offered in CLOCK is reminiscent of Reachy Prints. Yu Mountain also sticks out like a sore thumb amongst all of the easy listening guitar riff tracks. Feels more like a compilation of tracks rather than a flowing album experience. Some tracks just go nowhere at all like Dilatone. No evolution in the track. It's okay to repeat something but as long as that loop is interesting enough to keep going for almost 4 minutes. Not as good as Reachy Prints so far. Most tracks on Reachy Prints developed into something and evolved and went somewhere special. The 'epicness' of some of the tracks from Reachy Prints like Ropen and Nafovanny are missing in The Digging Remedy (maybe CLOCK is an exception as that feels pretty epic to me and very memorable). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lianne Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Melifer is coming out as a favourite on this release Simple classic Plaid tones but still very captivating Majority of the album is still needing to grow on me. It's interesting how they're using guitar on this album to create an easy listening experience. To me it doesn't flow too well as an album e.g. CLOCK is totally out of place. That sound palette offered in CLOCK is reminiscent of Reachy Prints. Yu Mountain also sticks out like a sore thumb amongst all of the easy listening guitar riff tracks. Feels more like a compilation of tracks rather than a flowing album experience. Some tracks just go nowhere at all like Dilatone. No evolution in the track. It's okay to repeat something but as long as that loop is interesting enough to keep going for almost 4 minutes. Not as good as Reachy Prints so far. Most tracks on Reachy Prints developed into something and evolved and went somewhere special. The 'epicness' of some of the tracks from Reachy Prints like Ropen and Nafovanny are missing in The Digging Remedy (maybe CLOCK is an exception as that feels pretty epic to me and very memorable). After my initial love for the album, these are currently my exact thoughts. I think I understand their aim for a very 'filtered', subtle sound, and do like it, but I would I have appreciated some of the tracks more if they built to something or evolved. Tracks like 'Dilatone', 'Saladore', 'Reeling Spiders'...Of course I can hear there are lots of little variations in intricacies in these tracks, but after a few listens now I realise, as cool as their subtle approach is, it's a bit too subtle for me. Actually many (not all) of the tracks don't go anywhere too much or shift or climax, but it seems less damaging in the more melodic/intricate/guitar based ones for some reason. It's the linear, squiggly above-mentioned ones that seem to give a 'flat' feeling once they're over. Maybe if there was one or two 'epics' thrown in there among them they wouldn't feel so much like that...I don't know. But overall it is actually a lovely album. If I'm in a forgiving mood and aren't expecting too much it is truly magical. I just wonder if they could have kept the beautifully light, low-key and magical feel and had a little more in the way of tracks 'kicking off' some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subtract Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Still need a dose of Nulls! The new EP tagged onto this makes one hell of an album though, satisfying to finally hear after many years some of the unreleased tracks/snippets and think there's still much more to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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