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Vocals are one of the more precarious elements that someone can perform in an IDM track. Quite a few artists have ruined their careers just from adding vocals in, even if they are semi-good, and never recovered (Cex, Tycho, some other ones in the EDM community). Hell, Squarepusher was lucky to get out unscathed from doing F-Train on Do You Know Squarepusher. Even as an instrument, over-reliance of vocal elements in an IDM track make it sound disingenuous to the electronic part of the composition even if they're chopped up or whatever, which is why I can't really get into Holly Herndon's stuff either. I'm not tone deaf and I've written lyrics for other people, but I never could integrate them into my own music deliberately. It's something I really want to do, but I have never found a way to integrate them in a way that didn't sound like they were divorced from the track or have to turn them into a part of the harmony to hide their presence. I've shopped around for singers for my material but not one of them that I met could add anything additional my songs in a way that thought was appropriate or synergistic, and that either the singer was competing with the track or the track was competing with the singer.
It's something that I play around with in my mind and occasionally sing with some of my tracks off-the-record, but it feels off to add pop-lyrics into something technically inclined and it also feels off being pedantically obtuse to the point of being pretentious for egotistical reasons. Is it possible?!? I'm more just curious with some of the other producers on here if you've wanted to do vocals on your tracks but couldn't for technical reasons, confidence reasons, or whatever.
Genuine question! The way I see it, gain is a budget, and normalizing just makes you start the game with lots of money in the bank.
I get it, you also raise the noise floor and the resolution is diminished a bit, but is that REALLY that big of a deal? Does that signal loss really matter that much? I thought that was the whole point of having much higher bit-rate effects processing was that you just had an order of magnitude less things to give a shit as long as the levels sounded right (and of course your monitoring situation was reasonably well-calibrated).
Is this just a pristine audio from soup-to-nuts kind of thing? Is that what everyone is shooting for these days unless you're doing some intentionally, over-the-plate lo-fi witch-house-ecco-vape-goth-rave-seinfeld thing or whatever the kids are calling it these days?
P.S. Not trying to pick on anyone here if we might have happened to have a germane discussion. This is one of those nagging "Am I just really stupid(*) or, is this that thing where everyone is afraid of asking the same thing" questions.
P.P.S. Mods, feel free to merge... this was the most relevant thread I could find: https://forum.watmm.com/topic/70902-normalising-tracks
* Also if I am just being stupid please explain. I will not get butthurt about being stupid, I promise.
I was just reading some lyrics by David Tibet, which is a bad idea because it tends to make me feel awful about my own writings. So to make myself feel better, I'd like you all to tell me your own favorites, because there have to be others out there who are as good as him. Post your favorite lyrics by them as well, if you want to. There really isn't enough talk about lyrics on this forum, anyway.