ascdi Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The standard release (CD, Vinyl, Download etc) is just basically Eno starting the app and at some unspecified point in time pressing record on his equipment and then 54 mins late pressing stop. It's just a snapshot of what the app was generating during that time. I dunno if there will be Android stuff. Has he made any apps available on the platform in the past? Actually, Eno doesn't handle all the software anyway. That's Peter Chilvers. He mentioned somewhere, I think it was http://flaunt.com/people/brian-eno/, that there’s actually a splice in there. I dunno, I get the hate for over-intellectualized stuff, but I don’t ever feel that way about the stuff Eno talks about. If anything, he’s always refreshingly down-to-earth and unpretentious about his working process. I remember a few years back when he was talking a lot about the physical humanist experience of singing and how it really rung his bell to sing poorly in a choir. Really refreshing perspective, if you ask me. Perhaps it’s the fanboy talking, but that’s even the context in which I take his latest albums’s sound palettes. Granted, this or Lux don’t have quite the otherworldly lushness of say, On Land, to the synth patches, but I think that’s just Eno’s desire to be workmanlike and practical about things. He’s mentioned a bunch how he likes ordinary consumer gear these days. I think there’s charm in that, in not being too precious. I mean, the old stuff sounds amazing too. But there’s a certain element of beard-strokage appreciating to OMG HALF-INCH TAPE DX7 TONESSSSS that seems to go against his democratic approach these days, I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumi Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The standard release (CD, Vinyl, Download etc) is just basically Eno starting the app and at some unspecified point in time pressing record on his equipment and then 54 mins late pressing stop. It's just a snapshot of what the app was generating during that time. I dunno if there will be Android stuff. Has he made any apps available on the platform in the past? Actually, Eno doesn't handle all the software anyway. That's Peter Chilvers. He mentioned somewhere, I think it was http://flaunt.com/people/brian-eno/, that there’s actually a splice in there. I dunno, I get the hate for over-intellectualized stuff, but I don’t ever feel that way about the stuff Eno talks about. If anything, he’s always refreshingly down-to-earth and unpretentious about his working process. I remember a few years back when he was talking a lot about the physical humanist experience of singing and how it really rung his bell to sing poorly in a choir. Really refreshing perspective, if you ask me. Perhaps it’s the fanboy talking, but that’s even the context in which I take his latest albums’s sound palettes. Granted, this or Lux don’t have quite the otherworldly lushness of say, On Land, to the synth patches, but I think that’s just Eno’s desire to be workmanlike and practical about things. He’s mentioned a bunch how he likes ordinary consumer gear these days. I think there’s charm in that, in not being too precious. I mean, the old stuff sounds amazing too. But there’s a certain element of beard-strokage appreciating to OMG HALF-INCH TAPE DX7 TONESSSSS that seems to go against his democratic approach these days, I feel. Thanks for the flaunt article. Very interesting. Hadn't read that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khov Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 a limited & signed edition, with unique snapshot of the app was released/sold at rough trade earlier this month : https://www.discogs.com/fr/Brian-Eno-Reflection/release/9589048 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumi Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 a limited & signed edition, with unique snapshot of the app was released/sold at rough trade earlier this month : https://www.discogs.com/fr/Brian-Eno-Reflection/release/9589048 Yes, I saw that a few days ago. It's not worth £50 imho. Just get the app. Every moment is unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxx Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 It is truly generative. I’m finding it difficult to understand how the app makes ‘generative music’, it’s discussed like a black box in the press releases and interviews. Are you able to give an explanation or link to something that I can read online that explains how the algorithms implemented in the app produce 'generative music'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 FFwd to about 1hr 5mins here where he discusses the generative process for the album/app http://www.bbc.co.uk...rammes/b0872pq4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxx Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 FFwd to about 1hr 5mins here where he discusses the generative process for the album/app http://www.bbc.co.uk...rammes/b0872pq4 can you repost the link it doesn't seem to work. thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Oops sorry - Copy and paste fail ! Here we are: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0872pq4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascdi Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Peter Chilvers was on a recent episode of The Next Track podcast talking about the album and app: http://www.thenexttrack.com/♫-episode-35-musician-and-developer-peter-chilvers-on-brian-enos-album-and-app-relfection/ I haven’t listened yet, seems legit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumi Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 "Conceptually, it's really fascinating." And that's a pretty good summary of Eno's output these past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumi Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 App updated. This version includes a sleep timer and an icon that allows you to route audio to Airplay and Bluetooth speakers without leaving the app. Access these by tapping on the screen during playback. The display now shows a wider range of colours, and a bug which on are occasions caused the images to stop changing has been fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N Aafiysh Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Can this app just run on a Mac laptop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumi Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 No, iOS only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheladrix Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Can this app just run on a Mac laptop? There's an Apple TV version too, which is probably not going to be much help. But in the unlikely event you own one, you can have a 24 hour Eno channel on your television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khov Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I remember going to a record store last year and was delighted to find Bowie just released à new record, that was 2 days before he passed away. Since then, i do like Eno's generative output even more : i just love the fact that there will be new or unreleased versions of his works, for years and years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumi Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I remember going to a record store last year and was delighted to find Bowie just released à new record, that was 2 days before he passed away. Since then, i do like Eno's generative output even more : i just love the fact that there will be new or unreleased versions of his works, for years and years. While that's true - new or unreleased works (in generative form) are so alike from one hour to the next, they suffer over linger periods. The thing I don't like much about the new album is that he uses such a small palette of sounds, there just isn't that much variation. I love ambient music and must have listened to hundreds of different works over the years but I find Reflection really boring after around eight or nine continuous hours. In addition, I don't find his sounds really attractive over a period of time but I know others on here quite like the Koan sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I like it a little bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khov Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Indeed, i do like those Koan sounds but yeah if Eno could make generative works as detailed/produced as Thursday Afternoon, that would be like the second coming of Christ.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumi Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Indeed, i do like those Koan sounds but yeah if Eno could make generative works as detailed/produced as Thursday Afternoon, that would be like the second coming of Christ.. We can dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 Not sure if you've seem the film Southern Comfort? maybe nowadays its a bit dated but because I watched it eons ago it's always been a favorite film of mine. I always loved the main soundtrack theme to this composed by Ry Cooder, which is of course mainly slide/bottle neck guitar. Reflection really, really reminds me of this, its like a epically long alternative electronic version. I can see why he called this Reflection. It's impossible for me not to love this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 good tw see u back bw. my intergnat friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 thanks mate instead of throwing in the towel I decided I'd just to limit my time here and post now and again watmm is much better for me that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumi Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Those people who bought the app have a nice surprise when they update through the app store today. You get four new pieces of generative music (all named after his daughters) each at 15 mins 13 secs. You get a download link and they are mp3 quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khov Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Anyone heard that one ? - bonus MP3 - https://www.discogs.com/fr/Brian-Eno-Sisters/release/9770556 would like to hear it but i'm strictly PC so.. :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumi Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 If you have the iOS app, Eno recently tinkered with the algorithm for the 'Spring Edition'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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