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yes sequentix stated that a diminution of the waiting time is still planed !

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Just bought u-he Hive in anticipation of v2’s release next Tuesday. RC can be downloaded via their kvr forum if anyone’s curious.

Urs & co have taken it to a whole new level, it’s now incredibly deep and intuitive at the same time. And the new scriptable wavetables sound beyond lush, I’ve never heard such pristine FM. Impressive AF, as usual with u-he. Zebra 3 is going to be insane.

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Just a followup on the ADAT expander discussion a few pages back, I finally had a chance to set up the Profire 2626 as an ADAT expander for my BLA modded Digi002 and it works great, no idea how much difference the BLA clock is making but the sound is very transparent, and if you compare closely the BLA does sound just a bit better but it's a really minor difference on line sources.  Haven't tried the mic pres or anything.

 

Definitely a good deal for the used price.

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On 5/24/2019 at 4:44 AM, modey said:

I haven't tried the quant yet actually! I'm mostly using the disting for wavetable/sample playback at the moment. The 2hp tune is alright, but pretty limited. I haven't noticed any weirdness with it yet.

The disting is great though. I could imagine having two in my rack at some point. Multipurpose modules are great imo. It'd be interesting making a mini 42hp rack with 3x warps (w/parasite firmware) and 3x disting lol.

Ended up with a pico quant, very happy.. The glide and tolerance knobs are a nice touch plus it has the ability to have scales (including microtonal scales) uploaded via its clock in. Also added a pico rnd, right now I'm mostly using its s&h output to feed to the quant, mostly. Putting off a disting for a while longer. 

  

36 minutes ago, TubularCorporation said:

Just a followup on the ADAT expander discussion a few pages back, I finally had a chance to set up the Profire 2626 as an ADAT expander for my BLA modded Digi002 and it works great, no idea how much difference the BLA clock is making but the sound is very transparent, and if you compare closely the BLA does sound just a bit better but it's a really minor difference on line sources.  Haven't tried the mic pres or anything.

 

Definitely a good deal for the used price.

The profires seem to go for quite a bit of money used over here rn (although I only saw 2 so small sample size :)). Used to have a profire1 610 to dj with and that was great, survived at least 4 years of pretty heavy duty use and never failed me, and it had 8 outputs in only half a 19" size unit.

I'll probably end up with a second secondhand  saffire pro40, that's the interface I currently have and am quite happy with (not a super critical user wrt transparency and micpre's and such) which seem to go for around 200 local monetary units. Either that or the dreaded ubiquitous ada8200 if I'm too lazy/impatient to get a secondhand unit.        

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2 hours ago, user said:

Ended up with a pico quant, very happy.. The glide and tolerance knobs are a nice touch plus it has the ability to have scales (including microtonal scales) uploaded via its clock in. Also added a pico rnd, right now I'm mostly using its s&h output to feed to the quant, mostly.

Nice! I'm somewhat tempted to get a couple of those pico modules, just because they seem to be a decent price for what you get. But.. I'm determined to build some stuff of my own.

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18 hours ago, user said:

The profires seem to go for quite a bit of money used over here rn (although I only saw 2 so small sample size :)). Used to have a profire1 610 to dj with and that was great, survived at least 4 years of pretty heavy duty use and never failed me, and it had 8 outputs in only half a 19" size unit.

I'll probably end up with a second secondhand  saffire pro40, that's the interface I currently have and am quite happy with (not a super critical user wrt transparency and micpre's and such) which seem to go for around 200 local monetary units. Either that or the dreaded ubiquitous ada8200 if I'm too lazy/impatient to get a secondhand unit.       

That's a shame, here they seem to top out around $200.  Mine was $200 but it is basically new condition, only thing missing was the driver CD and the breakout cable for MIDI and S/PDIF.  And a tiny nick in the insulation on the power supply that I'd want to fix if I was going to be moving it around a lot, but since it's just living in a rack with synths permanently hooked to it I didn't bother.

 

Looks like it would work well as a firewire interface, too, but aggregating interfaces in Windows is kind of clunky so I'm sticking with just using it as an expander and switching to 48kHz instead of 96 for tracking.  I usually end up rolling off a lot of highs anyhow so do I really need to take up the extra space and CPU to record them?  Probably not.

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My interface can do ADAT too but I do not want to go down the rabbit hole of suddenly having "room" for 8 more tracks of I/O. Probably good if I ever get a studio with a drum kit though...

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That's basically/maybe not at all the reason I want to expand my inputs. Just wanna have 6 ins to permanently hook my machinedrum up to, the other 10 will be on the patchbay. I don't even necessarily record that way but I really like being able to jam while monitoring everything on my computer so I can have all the fx etc already set up. But then I'll just record a couple of tracks at the same time max. 

 

On 5/27/2019 at 6:44 PM, TubularCorporation said:

That's a shame, here they seem to top out around $200.  Mine was $200 but it is basically new condition, only thing missing was the driver CD and the breakout cable for MIDI and S/PDIF.  And a tiny nick in the insulation on the power supply that I'd want to fix if I was going to be moving it around a lot, but since it's just living in a rack with synths permanently hooked to it I didn't bother.

 

Looks like it would work well as a firewire interface, too, but aggregating interfaces in Windows is kind of clunky so I'm sticking with just using it as an expander and switching to 48kHz instead of 96 for tracking.  I usually end up rolling off a lot of highs anyhow so do I really need to take up the extra space and CPU to record them?  Probably not.

Yeah, the ones I saw here were in the 400 region. Just spotted a saffire pro26 with firewire and adat for 50,-, might just be the ticket. 

I'm on a mac and have been quite lucky with aggregate devices so far (basically pro40+tr8) there's been a couple of crashes/random weirdness but nothing too bad. That'd be the main attraction in a 2nd pro40 though, they can be daisy chained via firewire and computer should just see it as one device, as far as I know.  

 

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Damn, the Axoloti is dope. It feels like I can finally build the kind of stuff I want in it. I should've bought one when they first came out.

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Gasing over Analog Heat and it’s crashing me! ...convince me it’s shit pls

im imagining love affairs between AH and my other elektron... 

machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machiiiiiiiiineees maaaaaaachiiines

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i sometimes use my Tascam 414 to bounce tracks to just for some extra flavour. sometimes it comes out shit but sometimes it comes out REALLY nice. i have not used the analog heat but i imagine it'd be a more reliable means of getting nice warm analog saturation in a more reliable predictable fashion. plus the options for envelope following and modulation will go a long way. it's probably fantastic imo. 

please buy one and report back 🙂

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4 hours ago, sweepstakes said:

Damn, the Axoloti is dope. It feels like I can finally build the kind of stuff I want in it. I should've bought one when they first came out.

Where did u get it from ?

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3 hours ago, bitchroast said:

i sometimes use my Tascam 414 to bounce tracks to just for some extra flavour. sometimes it comes out shit but sometimes it comes out REALLY nice. i have not used the analog heat but i imagine it'd be a more reliable means of getting nice warm analog saturation in a more reliable predictable fashion. plus the options for envelope following and modulation will go a long way. it's probably fantastic imo. 

please buy one and report back 🙂

Would like to try one of the tascam recs one day! 

Regarding AH... yes, i just know ill have to buy it eventually

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3 hours ago, Stickfigger said:

Where did u get it from ?

I just ordered it straight off the official website. The day I was whining in this thread about how long it took to arrive, it showed up. It really did not take very long at all; they are just a very lean business so I think they forego extra expenses like shipment tracking.

It feels a lot like Nord Modular but you can edit the patch objects (or roll your own from scratch) and you have some other goodies like SDRAM for samples, SD card (with some streaming objects), real MIDI I/O, USB host, etc. It's open source, so you have access to all the code, and you can write whatever code you can fit in that little processor. But the latency is very low, so it really feels like capital-H Hardware. Pretty brilliant, especially for the price - it came in around $100 USD including a simple wooden case I ordered elsewhere. With custom objects, it crashes fairly often, but that's because basically there aren't barriers preventing you from doing anything, which of course includes the stupid shit I'm doing all over the place. If you stick to the happy path it should be mostly stable, but I'm having more fun rolling my own.

There's some frustration on the forum by folks who 1) don't code and 2) are unsatisfied with the selection of built-in objects (although there are a lot of decent ones). I'm a total C++ noob but I'm fumbling my way through and making progress. So far I made a simple 32-bit control signal protocol for passing events such as MIDI messages between objects, which should be handy for building a standalone sequencer with my Launchpad Mini as the hardware UI. 

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I haven't been lusting that much lately but there's some stuff that I have been seeing that looks pretty cool that has caught my attention.

Kijimi:

 

SOMA Pulsar 23 drum machine:

 

The ORCA livecoding environment: (played around with this quite a bit already)

 

 

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wow, ORCA looks super fun!

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yeah Orca is really great, quick and easy to get some basic but weird shit going... program is still growing very much, and i'm still trying to wrap my head around it tbh, but it's kinda crazy just how 'simple' it is. not sure how unique it is in relation to other 'live coding' stuff but it's the only one that's caught my interest. companion synth Pilot is in its early stages but has some potential for sure. lots of really dirty/heavy digital sounds.

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I am far too stupid to do any of that . lol.

On 6/1/2019 at 12:00 AM, sweepstakes said:

I just ordered it straight off the official website. The day I was whining in this thread about how long it took to arrive, it showed up. It really did not take very long at all; they are just a very lean business so I think they forego extra expenses like shipment tracking.

It feels a lot like Nord Modular but you can edit the patch objects (or roll your own from scratch) and you have some other goodies like SDRAM for samples, SD card (with some streaming objects), real MIDI I/O, USB host, etc. It's open source, so you have access to all the code, and you can write whatever code you can fit in that little processor. But the latency is very low, so it really feels like capital-H Hardware. Pretty brilliant, especially for the price - it came in around $100 USD including a simple wooden case I ordered elsewhere. With custom objects, it crashes fairly often, but that's because basically there aren't barriers preventing you from doing anything, which of course includes the stupid shit I'm doing all over the place. If you stick to the happy path it should be mostly stable, but I'm having more fun rolling my own.

There's some frustration on the forum by folks who 1) don't code and 2) are unsatisfied with the selection of built-in objects (although there are a lot of decent ones). I'm a total C++ noob but I'm fumbling my way through and making progress. So far I made a simple 32-bit control signal protocol for passing events such as MIDI messages between objects, which should be handy for building a standalone sequencer with my Launchpad Mini as the hardware UI. 

Hmmm i really like the look of it and would love to have something like this that kinda bridged the H/S gap. Do you have a controller for it? If so, was it easy to map parameters?

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5 hours ago, Stickfigger said:

Hmmm i really like the look of it and would love to have something like this that kinda bridged the H/S gap. Do you have a controller for it? If so, was it easy to map parameters?

I'm using a Launchpad Mini. I've completely lost interest in traditional controllers because 1) I do not enjoy mapping parameters to controllers 2) I think knobs and faders are overrated anyway for a few reasons, and in lieu of those I plan to set up "inertial" controls (like tempo nudge on an Elektron). To be honest, I think it would be pretty annoying to map knobs with the built-in objects, although I can imagine how I would set up a learning object if I had to. For the Launchpad I just had to write a little code since every pad except the top row follows a very simple pattern of note numbers. My only gripe with it so far is no velocity sensitivity, but I don't miss it that much.

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Has anyone made or heard anything substantial with Orca? The music I've come across so far has this kind of chunky late-90s/early-00s sound with blocky rhythmic structures and kind of arbitrary-sounding melodies. It might just be a more general livecoding thing as it seems to require a different mindset to create emotionally engaging music out of these components. Compared to freeform noodling on keys & pads, what works is less clearly defined - there isn't great "algocomp music theory for beginners" as far as I know.

Orca specifically seems limited and difficult to scale for the same reason it looks fun and interesting. You have this strictly bound, roguelike-esque map of automata and you can see the whole thing at a glance, but when it comes time to make things more interesting, you likely have to rearrange some furniture.

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Orca alone is simply a sequencer. I’ve recorded one or two relatively simple things with it so far. 

Synths here are via Orca. Drums are programmed on the drum machine.

edit: probably need to start an Orca thread tbh. Will do later if no one else has 🙂

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On 10/25/2017 at 9:27 PM, Braintree said:

Feeling some serious GAS for the Make Noise 0-COAST, but I have to concentrate on the projects I already have. No reason to build a modular at the moment (even if this thing is a standalone).

 

I now have this exact GAS.

 

It is june - my GAS ban is lifted! But I need some money yet... 🙂

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i have a strict no new gear purchases atm. but then SOMEONE told me about a eurorack module that can house the original SID chips and use it as a sound source, and i had a broken commodore 64 in cupboard with working SID chip... so it would've been stupid to NOT buy the eurorack module that can use the original SID chip as a sound source. 

so technically, i'm still not purchasing new gear atm. 

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19 hours ago, auxien said:

Orca alone is simply a sequencer. I’ve recorded one or two relatively simple things with it so far. 

Synths here are via Orca. Drums are programmed on the drum machine.

edit: probably need to start an Orca thread tbh. Will do later if no one else has 🙂

 

Love that Ripley photo btw, Florina161 landing is a bitch 🙂

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What are your favourite/best sounding modular oscillators 

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