Now That Trump's President... (24 hours to go)

[zero 837]

35 minutes ago, Braintree said:

How does a racist have a beautiful black wife?

I had no clue who this guy even is, but that confused me as well. I don't know enough about proud boys to understand what the hell they believe in exactly.

found this article on him though...apparently he's not racist?

https://www.kitv.com/story/42687573/facebook-deletes-campaign-page-of-proud-boy-running-for-hawaii-house-seat

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The Democratic Party of Hawaii also called out Ochs for a history of offensive posts on social media about the Black, Jewish, and LGBT communities, as well as a video showing Ochs urinating into active lava fissure at the Kilauea volcano.

 

"This isn't a political issue, this is a moral issue, this is about what we as a community stand for and we as welcoming people of Hawaii believe in," says Tyler Dos Santos-Tam, the chair of the Hawaii Democratic Party.

 

Ochs' opponent, Democratic nominee Adrian Tam, also denounced the posts. "I hope the voters know that this does not represent Hawaii values and more importantly that they exercise their right to vote and reject this racism, bigotry, and hateful ideology," he says.

 

Ochs is defending himself, saying while his language isn't politically correct, he denies he's a racist or white supremacist.

 

 

"I'm happy to talk to anyone. And again, I am either the world's worst racist, or I'm not a racist. You have to acknowledge that a white supremacist does not marry a black woman and have a mixed family, that is not what that word means and the people that are throwing it around are disingenuous," Ochs tells KITV4.

 

The Democratic Party of Hawaii called on the Hawaii Republican Party to denounce Ochs' remarks.  Republican Party chair Shirlene Ostrov told KITV4 the party had no comment, and that they stand by Ochs as their GOP nominee for the seat.   

 

[very honest 1260]

right after trump was suspended from youtube for 7 days, his acting AG put up a video that's actually good

 

 

new member, part of qanon caucus:

 

 

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 08:42 PM by very honest

[zero 837]

^ that last one exhibits classic karen posturing...the way her shoulders are slightly hunched, mouth jutted forward...I don't even need to hear a word to be able to tell it is going to be non-stop verbal diarrhea time

[Rubin Farr 2905]

 

[Nebraska 1786]

big T impeached for the 2nd time.

Edited Wednesday at 09:24 PM by Nebraska

[jules 967]

Does that mean he loses his healthcare, pension, travel, and ability to ever run for office again or does it have to go through the Senate to determine that?

[Braintree 1529]

Impeached AGAIN. This guys just won't stop #winning.

[Upset man 134]

18 minutes ago, jules said:

Does that mean he loses his healthcare, pension, travel, and ability to ever run for office again or does it have to go through the Senate to determine that?

I’m of the understanding he has to be convicted in the senate first

[jules 967]

4 minutes ago, Upset man said:

I’m of the understanding he has to be convicted in the senate first

Damn. Oh well. He def won't be convicted in the Senate. And now we pay him for the rest of his life. 

[ignatius 5952]

3 minutes ago, jules said:

Damn. Oh well. He def won't be convicted in the Senate. And now we pay him for the rest of his life. 

The fallback position could be censuring him under Article 3 of the 14th Amendment, which prevents someone who's taken part in an insurrection against the United States from ever running for federal office.

 

Edited Wednesday at 10:01 PM by ignatius

[Rubin Farr 2905]

Censuring him can affect his ability to run again, collect his pension, etc. I believe. He also still gets his full Secret Service detail, as I think his entire family does, to defend them from a lifetime of being harassed in public, people throwing stuff at them, maybe trying to physically accost one they don’t like. ymmv

[randomsummer 422]

1 minute ago, jules said:

Damn. Oh well. He def won't be convicted in the Senate. And now we pay him for the rest of his life. 

I wouldn't be so sure.  Mitch hasn't said one way or the other, he said he'll listen to the evidence (lol, shouldn't he do that every time?).

I read somewhere that one of the biggest motivators to convict in the Senate is because the Rs have recently lost a lot of big / corporate donors, and they think that if they convict Trump it could bring some of that money flowing back in.  It's just crazy enough to work, having money be the only motivation for impeachment.

[TubularCorporation 705]

 

39 minutes ago, jules said:

Does that mean he loses his healthcare, pension, travel, and ability to ever run for office again or does it have to go through the Senate to determine that?

No, it means the senate won't pass it and nothing will happen.

12 minutes ago, randomsummer said:

I wouldn't be so sure.  Mitch hasn't said one way or the other, he said he'll listen to the evidence (lol, shouldn't he do that every time?).

I read somewhere that one of the biggest motivators to convict in the Senate is because the Rs have recently lost a lot of big / corporate donors, and they think that if they convict Trump it could bring some of that money flowing back in.  It's just crazy enough to work, having money be the only motivation for impeachment.

I'm pretty sure it takes a 2/3 majority. Not happening.

[Upset man 134]

So censure him. He shouldn’t receive a pension or any government benefits.

[Rubin Farr 2905]

8 minutes ago, Upset man said:

So censure him. He shouldn’t receive a pension or any government benefits.

Also realize what a pain in the ass it is to secure the surrounding area to Trump Tower

[Nebraska 1786]

2 hours ago, jules said:

Does that mean he loses his healthcare, pension, travel, and ability to ever run for office again or does it have to go through the Senate to determine that?

has to go through the senate to determine if he will charged. this is basically the black spot according to the articles

Edited Wednesday at 11:56 PM by Nebraska

[whosebrian 794]

2 hours ago, jules said:

Does that mean he loses his healthcare, pension, travel, and ability to ever run for office again or does it have to go through the Senate to determine that?

Convicting someone who is impeached requires a two-thirds majority vote in the Senate. Then the Senate can permanently disqualify the convict from any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States by a simple majority vote.

[ignatius 5952]

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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmanuelfelton/capitol-police-angry-congress-members-ignore-metal-detectors

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Two of the officers who spoke to BuzzFeed News said it wouldn’t surprise them if lawmakers had been involved. “There are definitely some members who need to be held to account once an investigation shows the totality of circumstances,” one said.

“Let’s be very clear, we are here for Congress,” a veteran officer said. “We are the buffer, so that Congress doesn’t have to deal with the mess that they create in their respective districts, so they don’t have to deal with the public. That’s primarily what our mission is — police work is kind of a second thought.”

 

Edited Thursday at 02:18 AM by ignatius

[joshuatxuk 843]

^ I thought nothing would top him self-owning by revealing that his "doctor wife" told him wet pussies were a concerning medical issue. This is a contender. 

[joshuatxuk 843]

7 hours ago, very honest said:

 

 

[joshuatxuk 843]

Another interesting note, those NG soldiers are with the 29th ID as seen on their shoulder badges. That division was the main one at Omaha Beach at Normandy. It's emblem symbolizes the unification of past militias and regiments from both the North and South.

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As the division was composed of men from states that had units that fought for both the North and South during the Civil War, it was nicknamed the "Blue and Gray" division, after the blue uniforms of the Union and the gray uniforms of the Confederate armies during the American Civil War.[7]

 

[Nebraska 1786]

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