very honest 1398 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) so uh this looks like provocation... and to what ends? Trump has been messaging about taking over cities with higher crime rates. Fox falsely portrays BLM protests as "rioters." it was only really the first weekend, back in may, when rioting as an organic part of the protests occurred. after the first week or so the statistics would show that 99% of protests were completely peaceful, and whatever incidents existed in the remaining 1% could typically be attributed to infiltrators, provocateurs and opportunists, who are distinct from the protestors. really, it seems more like it would round to 100% of the protests were peaceful, after that first week or two, yet fox never stopped talking about rioters and violent thugs in the cities... we saw trump conferring with pence, esper, and barr about invocation of the insurrection act, which would allow an unchecked martial law situation. we saw trump, during that first week of protests, trying to inflame unrest with antagonistic public statements. as the BLM movement has tempered, organized, and protests have decreased, we now see barr deploying secret police and abducting protestors the next day portland protests swelled in size. are they trying to stoke unrest, while simultaneously establishing a secret police? trump outrage plays into their hands. people need to play things smart and keep an eye on the others. Edited July 18, 2020 by very honest 1 Link to post Share on other sites
chenGOD 1612 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Tbh, right now the best option would be to sit back until November, organizing online to maximize opportunities to vote. Then in November vote that blue wave in. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
MaartenVC 389 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 I hope voting blue works, but... Maybe Trump sees that the only way he can survive is by creating an Authoritarian Police State before the voting starts, inciting fear and making opponents unable to vote and represent. I'm also quite afraid he will not surrender his position as head of state and government peacefully if he loses. Maybe he'll let the White House or the Capitol Building be burned down and blame it on the democrats. I hope America can wake up in time from this bad dream before it 's able to transform into a terrible nightmare. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7180 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 we're so fucked. nothing is gonna be normal. if things really kick off and it's "secret police vs protestors" then trump will in no way discourage the alt right military types from joining the fray and the military will have to decide if it's going to sit this out or be the force that evens the playing field. could go full on coup in some way if it gets to worst case scenario. i guess liberals who own guns will have to step into things too. civil war is just what Alexandr Dugin's roadmap calls for so.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7180 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-administration-seeks-to-block-money-for-testing-tracing-cdc-in-upcoming-virus-relief-bill/ Trump administration seeks to block money for testing, tracing, CDC in upcoming virus relief bill Link to post Share on other sites
very honest 1398 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 ben wittes, steve vladeck, and kate klonick of the lawfare podcast going over some of the details surrounding the little green men in portland. they start on the subject around 5 minutes in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UE8wrilGKU 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ambermonke 1827 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I really want to stomp orange menace in the nuts right now 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7180 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, timbre monke said: I really want to stomp orange menace in the nuts right now this won't help. Link to post Share on other sites
goDel 1223 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 A nice jab right on the nose 3 Link to post Share on other sites
ghsotword 71 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Trump resorted to calling Fox News fake news because even Fox News doesn't agree with his statement that the USA has the lowest coronavirus mortality rate in the world: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6172996717001#sp=show-clips 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7180 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 "dangerous extremists" https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/474091-383299-portland-protester-describes-beating-by-federal-officers-?wallit_nosession=1 Quote The Portlander earned that and other nicknames — some call him "Captain Planet" or "Supersoldier" — after he stood as solidly as a rock while federal officers pepper sprayed him and struck him at least five times with a baton during a rally outside the Hatfield Courthouse on Saturday, July 18. Of the attack, captured on video by the Portland Tribune, David says he "just took it." "I knew I was never going to react. I was never going to fight back," he said. "I'm a little too old to be beaten by a bunch of young guys." David, 53, is hardly an anti-establishment type. He says he attended the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland after high school, later serving with the Navy Seabees while becoming a commissioned officer and aeronautical engineer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dingformung 3198 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 fascism 1 Link to post Share on other sites
psn 619 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 hours ago, dingformung said: fascism Give the guy a chance. Link to post Share on other sites
dcom 1534 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) AP FACT CHECK: Trump bending facts on virus, Biden, economy (Associated Press) Edited July 20, 2020 by dcom 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nebraska 2091 Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 lots of great quotes by big T 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Silent Member 1495 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Most powerful man on earth, this guy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
markedone 627 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) On 7/18/2020 at 11:38 PM, goDel said: A nice jab right on the nose I cant stand this ad, or similar ones they made. To me the "life is a movie and trump is the villain" vibe is a major turn off. Its trying to co opt trumps rhetorical tactics but just comes off stupid imo. If it convinces others im all for it.. but I imagine it might turn off swing voters as well? Edited July 20, 2020 by markedone 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Squee 1352 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, markedone said: Anyone else besides me cant stand this ad, or similar ones they made? to me the overly-dramatic "life is a movie and trump is the villain" vibe is a major turn off, and i imagine it would be for swing voters Yeah, I know what you mean. It shouldn't be necessary to make overly dramatic videos like this in order to make people realise that they're dealing with such a bloated and incompetent idiot. But hey... I guess this is the kind of drama required to catch a large part of the American people's attention. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
dcom 1534 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Trump not ready to commit to election results if he loses (Associated Press) Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7180 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, dcom said: Trump not ready to commit to election results if he loses (Associated Press) https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pelosi-to-trump-youre-getting-kicked-out-if-you-lose-the-race-whether-you-like-it-or-not Quote “The fact is, whether he knows it yet or not, he will be leaving,” Pelosi told MSNBC “Morning Joe” co-host Mika Brzezinski. “Just because he might not want to move out of the White House doesn’t mean we won’t have an inauguration ceremony to inaugurate a duly elected president of the United States. The House speaker pointed out that winning an election goes beyond literally living in the White House. “There is a process,” she said. “It has nothing to do with the certain occupant of the White House doesn’t feel like moving and has to be fumigated out of there.” Link to post Share on other sites
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Rubin Farr 3525 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 This obese orange fuck is obviously trying to stoke violent in the streets, so he can say “See? I told you so white people!” And scare swing voters into supporting “law & order”, voting for him. I’m really getting scared now. Link to post Share on other sites
Squee 1352 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 He's just trolling. "Your favorite president" 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rubin Farr 3525 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Squee said: He's just trolling. "Your favorite president" I meant his threat to send in Federal troops to occupy “Democratic cities” https://apple.news/A-7hGezYhS8ar9Zd98v4kOA Link to post Share on other sites
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