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I meant his threat to send in Federal troops to occupy “Democratic states”.

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enough of this pissweak white apologism, at long last. apparently you haven't paid attention the last 5 years and understood the scale of what has occurred in that time. go take a cursory look at the 

A bunch of entitled/threatened/fearful white people have allowed themselves to be brainwashed to support the egotism of a common opportunist / cheap tie salesman. Now they are resorting to violen

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He’ll tow the law and order line, back the police, fly the flag and use every scumbag trick in the playbook.

America is at a crossroads.

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Voting the bastard out is my only concern this election. Boe Jiden wasn't exactly my top choice as his opponent, but it's either mediocre status quo bullshit under him, or an even worse second term under you-know-who with a potential planet-wide sabotage of biological habitation as we know it, on top of systemic genocide.

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A liberal-conservative/Democrat president is what the alt-right needs to push their fascist revolution. But they are a bunch if pussies with weapons, they can't achieve anything they may or may not predict, just a certain amount of clusterfuck. They can, however, team up and attack people that are weaker than them and make their life worse. It's the power of the dumb. It's a species that on the long run will die out.

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1 hour ago, Rubin Farr said:

The “Naked Athena” protested nude in front of the Portland Gestapo for 15 minutes:

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-07-19/portland-protest-naked-athena

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yeah. pretty amazing. quite the show of defiance really imo. takes guts to go in the buff and turn away the cops. the twitter video is pretty great. she struts out there. i think posted it somewhere maybe in the america thread. 

edit: yeah here it  is.. the  twitter feed has more pics and video. pretty awesome. 

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female naked protester stands off against the cops. NSFW

HEX THE PATRIARCHY

 

https://twitter.com/DonovanFarley/status/1284411412672999425?s=20

https://twitter.com/DonovanFarley/status/1284410621283328000?s=20

 

a letter from the frontlines:

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24 minutes ago, timbre monke said:

^ Sounds about right. Carlson and Hannity are both loathsome degenerates.

Fucking Degens, they make no secret whatsoever about being the propaganda whores they are either.

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This shit is scary, that the acting head of Homeland Security has never been confirmed by Congress, and this ass clown is actively working to destabilize our republic in America.  Will these fuckers ever have to answer for this?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/senators-thought-idea-abusive-president-142115744.html

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9 hours ago, Braintree said:

Somehow, this is just as frightening to me.

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Because you are used to not have the choice or be informed beforehand. It's EU law that you have to consent before they can exploit your data. It pops up on almost all goddamn web pages these days and I just always click "I agree" since you are monitored anyway by all apps on your phone that give the data to the Big Brothers and trackers on virtually every website. You are just now made aware of it

https://www.privacypolicies.com/blog/eu-cookie-law/#:~:text=With the passing of Directive,computer or web-enabled device.

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I always need to chuckle when they try to frame it like they're doing you a favor by tracking you and giving you personalised ads. As if I want them to track me to provide personalised ads. F#ck off already with your personalised ads. Yeah, sure please have all my data in order to "enhance" my online experience with ads.

 

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Agree. Though I'm not worried about the personalised ads. I can live with them and sometimes it amuses me how misguided they are based on some random stuff I clicked on. I'm more worried about the social engineering & nudging aspect of it and the fact that there are databases with comprehensive info about everyone out there that can be abused for more sinister stuff than personalised ads. Personalised ads and even influencing elections & undermining democracy seems to be one of the more harmless aspects of it, if you really think it through.

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John Kasich (who was in the 2016 race if I remember right) defects from the GOP: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/21/1962453/-Former-Ohio-Republican-governor-to-speak-at-the-Democratic-convention?detail=emaildkre

I remember him being one of the most moderate GOP candidates then. Trump and his band of nut-jobs are too far gone. It only makes sense.

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1 hour ago, dingformung said:

Agree. Though I'm not worried about the personalised ads. I can live with them and sometimes it amuses me how misguided they are based on some random stuff I clicked on. I'm more worried about the social engineering & nudging aspect of it and the fact that there are databases with comprehensive info about everyone out there that can be abused for more sinister stuff than personalised ads. Personalised ads and even influencing elections & undermining democracy seems to be one of the more harmless aspects of it, if you really think it through.

Yes, not to mention that it's well-documented how many tech companies give info to the authorities in this country, which, given all of what we are seeing, are not ashamed of repeating the horrors of past authoritarian regimes. Look into the ubiquity of the PredPol database, and how it's been used to search for people who haven't committed any crimes via relatives and friends who have. Or check out Brayne's study of LAPD use of "secondary surveillance networks" and the "functional creep" of data compiled through pizza lobby camera footage for facial recognition. 

https://www.asanet.org/sites/default/files/attach/journals/oct17asrfeature.pdf 

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When terms like "anarchist" are thrown around by our own president as a sign that a person is "the enemy of the people", we are in trouble. It won't be hard to catalog those who hang out on various forums to discuss political ideology or opposition to the ruling party. These technologies have only helped. When political ideology becomes demonized (as it had with McCarthyism), democracy is dead, or at least in a coma. I fear that people will become penalized for having views that are considered "dangerous". I have friends who openly proclaim to be anarchists, but they're not the violent sort the president and his cronies have in mind, but instead prefer to keep to themselves and reach Bakunin or whatever. Crossroads, indeed. 

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25 minutes ago, timbre monke said:

John Kasich (who was in the 2016 race if I remember right) defects from the GOP: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/21/1962453/-Former-Ohio-Republican-governor-to-speak-at-the-Democratic-convention?detail=emaildkre

I remember him being one of the most moderate GOP candidates then. Trump and his band of nut-jobs are too far gone. It only makes sense.

You know, it irritates me so much to see these "courageous souls" stepping up now, as though Trump's corrosive effects on political conservativism weren't clear at the outset. There was another guy with a milqtoast name like Jeff Flop... (just looked it up) ah, Jeff Flake. I mean, he only found the courage when he knew he wasn't going to win his district. But he went along for the ride when Trump for a long time before that point. Or Mitt Romney, who only recently finds the courage to say something, probably because he sees that it's politically expedient in some way (perhaps his Mormon base has had enough of Trump). It's all so predictable, if you assume the worst about people, that is. 

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there was a time when i considered possible the scenario in which tump were a double-double agent. i.e., putin was working his ear, but he had turned informant for US intel. that would make a great tom clancy novel. the president draws out a foreign intel plot to bring down the US from within. in this scenario, maybe US intel would even allow the president to go so far as to push for invoking the insurrection act, and to push for deploying federal police in states against governnor demands, and condition his followers to question the election (months ahead of time). this could be seen as an innoculation, if undertaken in a controlled way. put a crazy guy in there to flip all the switches, so that the rest of the country is forced to deal with the potential for this.

hard to imagine that US defense intel would abide trump's actions towards ukraine, while they were at war with russia. also abandoning the kurds to slaughter in syria. even harder to imagine US defense intel allowing the president, in such a scenario, to ALLOW a deadly pandemic to spread in the US, claiming lives of .05% of the US population in 4 months. i could go on, but my point is that i've become convinced that trump is not a double-double agent, pretending to be traitor to putin while secretly dishing all to US intelligence. 

so, IF and WHEN you CONTINUE to see things where it seems as though the trump administration is being coached and/or worked by putin's military intelligence, it is important to know that this is NOT the sort of illusion explainable by US intel operations.

for example, we now see not only a SECOND attempt to pit executive branch martial forces against state martial forces, but it's also a SECOND attempt to provoke the unrest that could be used as a pretense for further internal military escalation. these are coincidences worth noting. and they're not the first coincidences. 

even the fact that we SEE these things plays into the expected russian strategy. they would want us to think the president is a traitor. and this was one of the fishy things about the mueller findings, the russian's never acted like they didn't want to be caught. and this was one of the fishy things about the ukraine scandal, it's like putin got trump to do it knowing that trump would get caught.

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1 hour ago, timbre monke said:

John Kasich (who was in the 2016 race if I remember right) defects from the GOP: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/21/1962453/-Former-Ohio-Republican-governor-to-speak-at-the-Democratic-convention?detail=emaildkre

I remember him being one of the most moderate GOP candidates then. Trump and his band of nut-jobs are too far gone. It only makes sense.

In other words, the GOP is dead. 

Which is kinda sad, because well... the left over is far worse than the grand old party ever was, methinks.

Also, is it weird to see a correlation with the death of xltronic?

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28 minutes ago, very honest said:

i could go on, but my point is that i've become convinced that trump is not a double-double agent, pretending to be traitor to putin while secretly dishing all to US intelligence. 

makes for a lot of good conspiracy fodder, but yeah, no way is donald somehow playing both sides or secretly obeying Putin's orders or other such fluff. my thought is that both Putin and US intel eye him with amusement - he's a loud, obnoxious, idiot with no values who can be easily persuaded. whoever dangles the biggest carrot in front of him he follows. plus he's incredibly readable, which makes his whole "greatest salesman in the world" shtick so perplexing...every good con man knows you don't go blurting everything out all the time so everyone knows all about you, you hold back and let the grift unfold as naturally as possible while blending in...

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30 minutes ago, zero said:

makes for a lot of good conspiracy fodder, but yeah, no way is donald somehow playing both sides or secretly obeying Putin's orders or other such fluff. my thought is that both Putin and US intel eye him with amusement - he's a loud, obnoxious, idiot with no values who can be easily persuaded. whoever dangles the biggest carrot in front of him he follows. plus he's incredibly readable, which makes his whole "greatest salesman in the world" shtick so perplexing...every good con man knows you don't go blurting everything out all the time so everyone knows all about you, you hold back and let the grift unfold as naturally as possible while blending in...

 

well i think it's more likely than not that the russian mob has had compromising stuff on him since before he announced he was running. it requires no stretch of the imagination. anyone who looks at trump sees a mark.

in addition to this natural potential for compromise, there is a significant amount of reporting suggesting that trump got himself specifically indebted to entities from the russian mafia world (deutsche bank loans given to trump when other lenders wouldn't loan to him, reportedly guaranteed/cosigned by either russian oligarchs or russian state bank vtb).

i think we all noticed trump's fawning behavior toward putin. if you look at the footage, trump's posture, expression, and gesturing all seem to communicate "hey, you can help me and i can help you." it's hard to believe, so people don't believe it, but if you look at it, that's what it looks like.

in addition to that strange public messaging, close observers also noticed how putin's wishlist has continually been granted (whitewashing russia's 2016 US election interference, providing sanction relief, declining to enact new sanctions, weakening NATO, removing troops from syria, undermining ukraine, ending wargames with south korea, removing troops from germany, to name a few). 

so i am operating under the assumption that trump has got himself into a position where he has decided to try to do some shady dealing with the russians. once he goes down that road, he's immediately outmatched. trump does not beat russian intel at chess.

cohen testified that trump had him lie to congress about the timeline of moscow tower negotiations in 2016. so he's already on the other side of the line, right there. that's him dealing with the russians for personal gain and breaking US law in order to cover it up.

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