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i don't have netflix but god only knows what would have happend by now if hill was the president

we are still here people, and it's all because of emperor trump, sure he did some bad things but that's only because most people of the usa are batshit crazy

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i don't have netflix but god only knows what would have happend by now if hill was the president

we are still here people, and it's all because of emperor trump, sure he did some bad things but that's only because one-third of people of the usa are batshit crazy

Sorry, had to make that correction - the one-third that rabidly support him. We're like a nuclear reactor that's sprung a slow but increasingly larger coolant leak. The question is how soon til meltdown.

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Might as well say that people in Belgium are batshit crazy.

 

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i didn't mean to offend anyone, i love the u.s. and we def are just as batshit crazy except we don't have automatic rifles to shoot each other up when we are having a bad day, we use more primitive stuff

i'm just saying how i feel man, everyone riding the trump hatetrain but there are much worse probs and peeps in the world

$ ooze over and out $

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i didn't mean to offend anyone, i love the u.s. and we def are just as batshit crazy except we don't have automatic rifles to shoot each other up when we are having a bad day, we use more primitive stuff

i'm just saying how i feel man, everyone riding the trump hatetrain but there are much worse probs and peeps in the world

$ ooze over and out $

I agree wholeheartedly with you ooze, it doesn't make the man a better person.. but it feels like the media uses him to shadow many other greater problems going around..

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Interesting interview with David Cay Johnston who wrote a book, or rather books, about Trump. After 20mins it gets into the meat of why "it's even worse than you think". If you can spare the time, watch it.

 

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i didn't mean to offend anyone, i love the u.s. and we def are just as batshit crazy except we don't have automatic rifles to shoot each other up when we are having a bad day, we use more primitive stuff

i'm just saying how i feel man, everyone riding the trump hatetrain but there are much worse probs and peeps in the world

$ ooze over and out $

 

 

but none of them have the power at their disposal that trump has.. 

 

and of course, being in another country, you're going to view him differently than people in the USA view him.  we've had our ups and downs w/presidents and our cultural shifts etc etc.. but this guy is a fucking lunatic. 

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Still wondering how folks who lived thru Nixon are comparing the two presidencies, because there seem to be some parallels. But was Nixon ever the level of tyrant that Trump aspires to be?

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Still wondering how folks who lived thru Nixon are comparing the two presidencies, because there seem to be some parallels. But was Nixon ever the level of tyrant that Trump aspires to be?

 

 

there's so much dirt on nixon.. and recordings of him in the oval office saying all kinds of racist shit and tlaking about plugging leaks and everything else.. and the laos camboda vietnam etc

 

he did a few good things while president but lot's of awful stuff and abused his power etc.. 

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I've been watching Vietnam vet historical record kind of docs and the way they have been treated is awful. Especially when they came back. There was a draft. They had no choice. It was like a prison sentence and to be spat upon or refused drinks at a bar. I can't believe we did that to them. I wasn't born but we as a people

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How about that memo.

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sounds like a load of doodoo.

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I've been watching Vietnam vet historical record kind of docs and the way they have been treated is awful. Especially when they came back. There was a draft. They had no choice. It was like a prison sentence and to be spat upon or refused drinks at a bar. I can't believe we did that to them. I wasn't born but we as a people

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good ol nunes.. he's doing anything to obstruct the investigation and be a lapdog for the president.  

 

he's implicated in all this (specifically the Flynn stuff) and i think is just trying to cover his own ass. hopefully he gets caught up in charges and flynn testifies against him or something.. 

 

i hope the lot of them get made examples of. it's gonna be a big ugly thing in america if this does actually go down.. there's enough wackos w/guns who will probably start shooting in order to protect their god emperor trump. 

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Trumpo better than a founding father and a freer of slaves? time for Orrin Hatch to retire to the looney bin, his brain is mush.

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such a douchebag. all he is about is ego.  surprised the russians did just stroke his ego to get him to play along instead of all this hijinks. 

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saw that fire and fury book today at the bookstore. the guy there said it's selling really well

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Heaviest Presidents:

William Howard Taft 332 lb.

Grover Cleveland 275 lb.

William McKinley 233 lb.

Zachary Taylor 230 lb.

 

Trump is 239 pounds. He is the 3rd greatest president.

Edited by very honest

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Still wondering how folks who lived thru Nixon are comparing the two presidencies, because there seem to be some parallels. But was Nixon ever the level of tyrant that Trump aspires to be?

 

 

there's so much dirt on nixon.. and recordings of him in the oval office saying all kinds of racist shit and tlaking about plugging leaks and everything else.. and the laos camboda vietnam etc

 

he did a few good things while president but lot's of awful stuff and abused his power etc.. 

 

 

"Nixon was a professional politician, and I despised everything he stood for -- but if he were running for president this year against the evil Bush-Cheney gang, I would happily vote for him." - Hunter S. Thompson. 

 

I feel the same about Bush now with Trump in office. 

 

Nixon and Trump are similar in their sense of arrogance, shamlessness and feeling of invincibility. While they are both on the right that's about the only major shared point. Nixon was smart as hell and far more pragmatic. 

 

I've been watching Vietnam vet historical record kind of docs and the way they have been treated is awful. Especially when they came back. There was a draft. They had no choice. It was like a prison sentence and to be spat upon or refused drinks at a bar. I can't believe we did that to them. I wasn't born but we as a people

 

It was absolutely godawful and injust but it's also complicated by a lot of other factors too

 

1. Rich and privileged could get out of it. Draftees often ended up as infantry and other combat roles because the others were filled: people oft forget we had hundreds of thousands of military personal still serving around the world in Korea, Japan, Germany, in the Navy and USAF, etc. on alert because of the Soviet threat WHILE we had 500,000+ in Vietnam. So in 'Nam there was a lot of built-in distrust and resentment that lead to leadership failures, bad morale and in extreme cases fragging. After the war the military was a in a funk recruitment wise. I think the draft was finally ended in the late 70s and national guard, who in 'Nam were guaranteed not to deploy overseas, were incorporated into the military 100%. So in 2003 it swung the other way where national guard troops found themselves in combat in the middle east.

 

2. The war wasn't that unpopular, especially from the onset, in fact there were people who volunteered to fight, albeit in smaller numbers. Add the fact that the combat units bore the brunt of fighting but are only a fraction of personal - like in WW2 or even now most military personal are support units in some capacity. Critics of the war were left-wing and also often anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist, anti-establishment...so naturally it lead to sociopolitical tribalism and stereotypes like we have now with pro-war people considering themselves patriots. When shit starting hitting the fan in 1968 and 1969 and more mainstream critics emerged it was still too late - vets came back feeling ostracized and demonized. Some vets became anti-war while others resent anti-war people. Most all feel abandoned in general  - there was no "honor and respect" bestowed on them.

 

3. Unlike WW2 most personal were not only drafted but experienced far, far more combat. Unprecedented levels really. And while combat vets of WW2 came home to GI Bills and other support Vietnam vets came home with horror stories and absolute disillusionment. It's a war we literally left without any sense of success.

 

4. Hindsight only really revealed how misguided the war was. Every POTUS from Ike to Nixon essentially supported the war by default. In fact ironically Nixon help lead to it being a withdrawal, not exactly escalating it, while also bombing the shit out of it, similar to the Bush/Obama exit plan in Iraq.

 

Anyway I could rant on about this, it's an absolutely tragic and fascinating war with so many facets. Still need to see the Burns doc but I've read up on it a lot.

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Cheeto powder = orang smegma

The thing that bothers me (among countless things) about him is that while a liar, he's a very obvious and half-assed liar, but that's not the troubling part. What's disturbing is how many people eat up his bullshit and take it for gospel, how many of these maniacs defend him so voraciously that anything counter to what he says sets them into a rage...even if it's the god damn truth.

I've made the analogy before, but this is parallel to Resident Evil 4, with Osmund Saddler and his congregation of Ganados.

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