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The longer this shutdown goes on, the more pressure there should be to ramp up the collusion investigation. At what point does it get so bad that it's time to drop the fuckin hammer?

Whatever happens, I don't think this presidency will end well for you-know-who.

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Can't get around paywall, but assume its related to guiliani recent media appearances. ( please bare with me. I mean related and not "about") Managing the coming storm. Because they already know what cohen is going to tell (because written statement). And guiliani goes for the "trump wasnt part of the collusion" story. While arguing Cohen is not credible to begin with.

 

The irony of it all, whatever Cohon is going to tell, it's hard to be surprised at this point. What a shit show...

 

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Democratic leaders reacted with fury and demanded an investigation late Thursday following a new report that President Trump personally directed his former attorney Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about the president’s push for a lucrative condo project in Moscow in the lead-up to the 2016 election.

The Thursday night report from BuzzFeed News cites two unnamed federal law enforcement officials who say Cohen acknowledged in interviews with the office of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III that the president directed him to deceive Congress about key facts linking Trump to the proposed deal in Russia. Cohen pleaded guilty in November to lying under oath about those details.

Lanny J. Davis, Cohen’s legal and communications adviser, declined comment on Friday morning: “Out of respect for Mr. Mueller’s and the Office of Special Counsel’s investigation, Mr. Cohen declined to respond to the questions asked by the reporters and so do I.”

Democrats said that if the report is accurate, Trump must quickly be held to account for his role in the perjury, with some raising the specter of impeachment.

“The allegation that the President of the United States may have suborned perjury before our committee in an effort to curtail the investigation and cover up his business dealings with Russia is among the most serious to date,” wrote Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. “We will do what’s necessary to find out if it’s true.”

The allegation that the President of the United States may have suborned perjury before our committee in an effort to curtail the investigation and cover up his business dealings with Russia is among the most serious to date. We will do what’s necessary to find out if it’s true. https://t.co/GljBAFqOjh

— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) January 18, 2019

Friday, morning, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) also called for an investigation. “We know that the President has engaged in a long pattern of obstruction,” Nadler said in a tweet. “Directing a subordinate to lie to Congress is a federal crime. The @HouseJudiciary Committee’s job is to get to the bottom of it, and we will do that work.”

Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.), appearing on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Friday morning, called the story “as serious as it gets.”

“If this is true, what it means is this is more evidence that the president has violated his oath of office,” Deutch said. “If he told Michael Cohen to lie to Congress, if he suborned perjury, this is as serious as it gets.”

Eric Holder, President Barack Obama’s attorney general, tweeted that Congress should start impeachment hearings if the story is accurate.

“If true — and proof must be examined — Congress must begin impeachment proceedings and Barr must refer, at a minimum, the relevant portions of material discovered by Mueller. This is a potential inflection point,” he wrote.

If true - and proof must be examined - Congress must begin impeachment proceedings and Barr must refer, at a minimum, the relevant portions of material discovered by Mueller. This is a potential inflection point. https://t.co/iaZmiHgL7L

— Eric Holder (@EricHolder) January 18, 2019

“If the @Buzzfeed story is true, President Trump must resign or be impeached,” tweeted Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Tex.), a member of the House Intelligence Committee.

If the @BuzzFeed story is true, President Trump must resign or be impeached.

— Joaquin Castro (@JoaquinCastrotx) January 18, 2019

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment on BuzzFeed’s report. Lanny Davis, Cohen’s adviser, issued a statement to MSNBC’s Katy Tur saying that “Out of respect for Mr. Mueller’s and the Office of Special Counsel’s investigation, Mr. Cohen declined to respond to the questions asked by the reporters and so do I.”

Rudolph W. Giuliani, Trump’s attorney, responded to the report by saying, “If you believe Cohen I can get you a great deal on the Brooklyn Bridge.”

[Trump reportedly told Michael Cohen to lie. His own attorney general pick testified that’s a crime.]

But BuzzFeed says that Mueller’s office has more evidence than just Cohen’s testimony that Trump directed him to lie to Congress. Per the report, Cohen’s testimony is backed up by “interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents.”

Trump calls Cohen 'weak,' dismisses scrutiny of Moscow project
 

President Trump on Nov. 29 said his former personal lawyer Michael Cohen is lying to federal prosecutors about a Trump real estate project in Moscow. (Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)

In November, Cohen admitted he’d falsely told Congress that Trump’s efforts to build a condo tower in Moscow ended in January 2016, when, in reality, those efforts continued through that June. As Mueller noted, Cohen’s testimony was an attempt to “minimize links between the Moscow Project and Individual 1,” which is how Trump is referred to in the report. Trump had repeatedly insisted on the campaign trail that he had no ongoing business interests in Russia, even as the deal continued to unfold.

In court documents, Cohen admitted that he’d briefed Trump on his ongoing negotiations with Russian officials about the proposed deal and said that he’d consulted with Trump’s team before his false testimony before Congress. But he never said in those documents that Trump himself played any role in encouraging his false testimony.

According to BuzzFeed, Mueller’s team now has evidence that Trump did just that. Democratic leaders promised a quick probe into whether Trump, in fact, did direct Cohen to lie.

“I mean everything feels like a bombshell and we are all numb but I’m pretty sure if this story is true it’s — I’m going to be careful with my words here — something that congress must investigate thoroughly,” tweeted Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii).

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) tweeted, “Listen, if Mueller does have multiple sources confirming Trump directed Cohen to lie to Congress, then we need to know this ASAP. Mueller shouldn’t end his inquiry, but it’s about time for him to show Congress his cards before it’s too late for us to act.”

Listen, if Mueller does have multiple sources confirming Trump directed Cohen to lie to Congress, then we need to know this ASAP. Mueller shouldn't end his inquiry, but it's about time for him to show Congress his cards before it's too late for us to act. https://t.co/ekG5VSBS8G

— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) January 18, 2019

Added Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.): “This stunning Trump Tower Moscow story establishes a clear case of Obstruction of Justice, a felony. I’ve lost count now how many times @realDonaldTrump has engaged in Obstruction of Justice. Oh, fyi the first Article of Impeachment for Richard Nixon was Obstruction of Justice.”

Lieu added in another tweet that “Based on the BuzzFeed report and numerous other articles showing @realDonaldTrump committed Obstruction of Justice and other possible felonies, it is time for the House Judiciary Committee to start holding hearings to establish a record of whether @POTUS committed high crimes.”

Lieu then speculated on another criminal code the congressman suggested the president may have violated if the BuzzFeed report is accurate.

So many felonies @POTUS may have committed. How about 18 U.S.C. § 1505:

 

"Whoever ... endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede ... the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House" is guilty of a felony. https://t.co/iV85dsC78Y

— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) January 18, 2019

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Trump: "I am just a worthless liar. I am just an imbecile. I will only complicate you. Trust in me and fall as well."

 

Vlad: "I will find a center in you. I will chew it up and leave. I will work to elevate you. Just enough to bring you down."

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thx, chen!

 

About Barr: I think the distrust presented in the US media is a bit overhyped. Barr seems very much like a competent candidate, if you ask me. Perhaps some conservative ideas. Although I'm sure he's pretty liberal if you compare him to Sessions. But given his comments, he doesn't strike me as a guy will be taught by Trump on how law according to Trump should work. 

My only real issue with his answers - as far as i've seen - is his comment on how to deal with advice from the ethics lawyer. If the ethics department says "no, don't do it", he still sees a reason to make up his own mind and come to a different conclusion if he sees the facts differently. That's just ... no. Big no. But other than that, he seems like a pretty straight arrow. 

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lol @zero pic

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190117100458-trump-putin-praise-medium-t

 

Trump: "I am just a worthless liar. I am just an imbecile. I will only complicate you. Trust in me and fall as well."

 

Vlad: "I will find a center in you. I will chew it up and leave. I will work to elevate you. Just enough to bring you down."

 

This warms my heart. 

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even the likes of Nixon, Reagan & Dubya pale in comparison to this fuck, don't you chaps have guns?

 

i mean, you went awol & dumped all our tea over something far more trivial

 

it's a shame Frank Booth was fictional & Hopper's dead, a possible meeting between Frank Booth & Drumpf could've been glorious

 

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190117100458-trump-putin-praise-medium-t

 

Trump: "I am just a worthless liar. I am just an imbecile. I will only complicate you. Trust in me and fall as well."

 

Vlad: "I will find a center in you. I will chew it up and leave. I will work to elevate you. Just enough to bring you down."

 

 

Beautiful and accurate. True art.

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update...

 

 

fucking BuzzFeed.

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update...

 

 

fucking BuzzFeed.

 

 

mueller doesn't want the demos in the house to start impeachment proceedings w/o all the real details. "hey false start people"

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Here's what needs to happen:

1. Trump gets forced to don a jumpsuit that matches his skin color and then tie his hair into pigtails. Then he gets sent to Kentucky State Penitentiary.
2. McConnell needs to be shoved into the hollowed-out shell of a giant tortoise and kicked down the steps of the Capitol Building, preferably by Italian plumbers.
3. John Bolton's ass just needs a mud-hole stomped in it because he's the most rabid chicken-hawk war criminal motherfucker on the planet.

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Here's what needs to happen:

 

1. Trump gets forced to don a jumpsuit that matches his skin color and then tie his hair into pigtails. Then he gets sent to Kentucky State Penitentiary.

2. McConnell needs to be shoved into the hollowed-out shell of a giant tortoise and kicked down the steps of the Capitol Building, preferably by Italian plumbers.

3. John Bolton's ass just needs a mud-hole stomped in it because he's the most rabid chicken-hawk war criminal motherfucker on the planet.

 

 

i concur

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This is a new take for me. It's not just about Trump doing stuff that just happens to help Russia. There might be a bigger plan where the US will be modelled after Russia.

 

Beginning of a thread about what we currently know of Manafort

 

And specifically

 

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I read that 2011 speech before from Mueller about the evolving organized crime threat and was like “holy shit, that is exactly what’s happening now and he’s the right dude for the job!”

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I just hope all this doesn't turn into another Lusitania or Pearl Harbor... we all know how that ended up...

fucking 'elites' man

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190117100458-trump-putin-praise-medium-t

 

Trump: "I am just a worthless liar. I am just an imbecile. I will only complicate you. Trust in me and fall as well."

 

Vlad: "I will find a center in you. I will chew it up and leave. I will work to elevate you. Just enough to bring you down."

 

 

Beautiful and accurate. True art.

 

 

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I always liked the dude that sat there with headphones in that video.

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Henry's speech at the beginning reminds me of those so called "red-pilled" people or the Men Who Go Their Own Way folk. Though I guess the ideology is the liar in that case. 

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how annoying is this kid?

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Well he is a kid, trying do do the best he can with the limited world view he has been provided by his parents and church community. I’ll be the first to admit that I wasn’t too far removed from that stance when I was 17.

 

Lesson learned, fake news cycle.

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there's a little bit more to that story. yes, kids wearing MAGA hats are shitheads no matter how you dice it, but worth a read to get the full context. apparently the wonderful folks known as black israelites were yelling all sorts of obscenities at everyone in the crowd, right before the confrontation

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-21/native-american-surrounded-maga-trump-supporters-what-happened/10730988

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there's a little bit more to that story. yes, kids wearing MAGA hats are shitheads no matter how you dice it, but worth a read to get the full context. apparently the wonderful folks known as black israelites were yelling all sorts of obscenities at everyone in the crowd, right before the confrontation

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-21/native-american-surrounded-maga-trump-supporters-what-happened/10730988

 

 

here's the whole 'debunking' video crosspost from the "what does world think of america" thread. 

 

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