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lol

youtube comments are chewing Elektron up

shit does look pretty derpy, only kinda matches sorta... and i mean i don't own either of these machines but having a handle attaching at a joint where the power cable connects, and expecting people to hold/carry/rest the weight of the device on that joint seems maybe a recipe for breaking your power connection. but maybe it's really stable/strong, idk man. 

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Model:Cycles rules. I'm enjoying it more than the Octatrack these days.

The handle is somewhat silly but it does seem to qualitatively improve the experience. There's definitely some bias in effect, but the beta testers I've heard from have had nothing but positive things to say about it. I think the AA batteries were a smart choice too. 

It does look a bit derpy but not as much as having a USB brick hanging off it. And it looks a lot better laying on a table, tucked under it as a stand.

The Cenk "It's me or the handle" comment was fucking hilarious though.

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I don't think it looks bad, couldn't care less about looks, honestly. it just feels like either a diversion, or worse, them testing the waters into this vanilla business model. best case, it's just them flooding with more products to elevate profit margins without compromising much of development

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Looks like some old lab equipment I've had to use at work. Just slap an Anritsu or Rohde & Schwarz logo there and it would fit perfectly.

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9 hours ago, tbf said:

hurts to watch in realtime the demise of a company with so much potential

They were bought out by an investment firm a couple years ago, right? And a bunch of logn time employees left recently, citing disagreements over the direction the company was taking?

It's only a matter of time until they reach the Rhythm Wolf phase.

 

I think I really should put aside some money this summer and buy some backup parts for my MKI Octatrack while they're sill available.

 

EDIT: the important thing here is that the promo video looks like a 20 year old Quizno's commercial.

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5 hours ago, tbf said:

I don't think it looks bad

It's $50

It can't charge rechargeable batteries

 

It doesn't include any batteries.

 

 

It's $50

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On 5/27/2021 at 12:00 PM, auxien said:

having a handle attaching at a joint where the power cable connects, and expecting people to hold/carry/rest the weight of the device on that joint seems maybe a recipe for breaking your power connection.

It doesn't rest on the connector. It clips onto the enclosure without needing the cable connected and doesn't put any stress on it at all.

I was a beta tester for the handle and while I wouldn't have bought one; I found it a lot less goofy than it looks. I don't mind that it takes AA batteries, I have tons of rechargeables from years of using gameboys to make music so :shrug:

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11 minutes ago, sweepstakes said:

Why wouldn't you have bought one?

I don't really need it. I bought a tiny battery pack that holds 4x AA batteries not long after I got my Samples, and then got a USB to barrel adaptor which allows it to be powered by a powerbank. I'll likely use the battery handle now that I have one, but especially not having a stable income, I couldn't really justify buying one.

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On 5/26/2021 at 9:33 PM, sweepstakes said:

Model:Cycles rules. I'm enjoying it more than the Octatrack these days.

The handle is somewhat silly but it does seem to qualitatively improve the experience. There's definitely some bias in effect, but the beta testers I've heard from have had nothing but positive things to say about it. I think the AA batteries were a smart choice too. 

It does look a bit derpy but not as much as having a USB brick hanging off it. And it looks a lot better laying on a table, tucked under it as a stand.

The Cenk "It's me or the handle" comment was fucking hilarious though.

lol

yeah i may pick up a M:C one day, who knows...heard some good fun come out of it before and i think there's a few purposes it could serve for my stuff. but not dying for it or anything

yeah...anything Elektron has a bit of that in-group bubble bias which is sad but has profited the company well i'd assume. chinks in that armor are showing seeing how little truly good reactions this is getting, and a good lot of vocal 'yeah that's not what anyone wanted' comments

21 hours ago, modey said:

It clips onto the enclosure without needing the cable connected and doesn't put any stress on it at all.

that's good at least

anyway this guy ain't into it, he details why:

 

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10 minutes ago, auxien said:

anyway this guy ain't into it, he details why:

lol that guy didn't want one in the first place, and just bought one so he could shit on it even more. He's going out of his way to post it in as many places as possible. I'm surprised he hasn't posted here. 
 

I don't get why people are so passionate in their hate of this product. Just.. don't buy it? Elektron doesn't owe us anything. They've already made several amazing devices that won't suddenly stop working now that they've released a battery handle that isn't rechargeable.

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31 minutes ago, modey said:

I don't get why people are so passionate in their hate of this product.

 
 
portent
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a sign that something bad is likely to happen in the future
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43 minutes ago, modey said:

I don't get why people are so passionate in their hate of this product. Just.. don't buy it? Elektron doesn't owe us anything. They've already made several amazing devices that won't suddenly stop working now that they've released a battery handle that isn't rechargeable.

Elektron encourages passion from their userbase. passion ain't all good, as i'm sure they've been seeing the last few years.

Elektron does 'owe' the handle, kinda, since they were the ones to announce that it was on the way what....two years ago? at least one, yeah? i mean they didn't pull an Overbridge with this saying it was just over the horizon for years, but at least Overbridge turned out good eventually.

personally i'm just laughing about it for the light pseudo-drama for such a niche thing, it's funny and Elektron gets clicks, who cares. and if Elektron announced an awesome _____ tomorrow with some great demos i'd be first in line on a pre-order.

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edit: in reply to @TubularCorporation

 

And? If Elektron suddenly start making products I don't like, I'll stop buying them. Again, they don't owe us anything. I'm probably the biggest Elektron fanboy on this forum but it's only because they make gear that I enjoy using. If they suddenly become like TE or Apple or whatever, I'll say "ah well, that sucks" and move on. 

3 minutes ago, auxien said:

Elektron does 'owe' the handle, kinda, since they were the ones to announce that it was on the way what....two years ago?

Yeah, but there are people complaining that they were misled or whatever, when it was well advertised from the beginning what the device would look like, and that it would take AA batteries. 

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How much would it have cost them to give it a rechargeable usb battery? AA batteries are such a thing of the past. 

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Probably quite a lot? You don’t just slap a usb chargeable battery in a device and sell it. Probably would’ve cost them quite a bit in r&d. 

But I do agree having a portable device run off batteries that you can buy literally anywhere in the world for reasonable money for the foreseeable future and probably until the end of times is ridiculous. Now people can’t complain about having to play shows with a device that takes some exotic usb connector that broke right before their set on the summit of the Mont Blanc and have to come up with a different excuse of why their performance sucked. 
 

If only chargeable AA batteries with a little USB port right there on the fucking battery that could be ordered online in packs of about four for around 20 local international monetary units existed. Things would be so different then. 
 

Edit: there can be only one existence.

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12 hours ago, auxien said:

lol

yeah i may pick up a M:C one day, who knows...heard some good fun come out of it before and i think there's a few purposes it could serve for my stuff. but not dying for it or anything

yeah...anything Elektron has a bit of that in-group bubble bias which is sad but has profited the company well i'd assume. chinks in that armor are showing seeing how little truly good reactions this is getting, and a good lot of vocal 'yeah that's not what anyone wanted' comments

that's good at least

anyway this guy ain't into it, he details why:

 

What a miserable person lol.

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9 hours ago, yekker said:

AA batteries are such a thing of the past. 

Honestly all of my gear with built in rechargeable batteries makes me anxious. My Gameboy Micros barely last an hour until they show a low battery indicator, which means I've had to retire them from live shows. I'd much rather have a set of rechargeable AAs that I can replace and keep the device going than a built-in one that deteriorates after a few years.

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https://bp1-support.elektron.se

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Product name: Power Handle BP-1

Hazard: Under certain circumstances, the Power Handle BP-1 can cause a short circuit, potentially posing a burn and/or fire hazard to consumers.

Immediate action required

  1. Stop using the Power Handle immediately
  2. Unplug the Power Handle
  3. Remove the batteries
  4. Contact us to register for the return process and full refund using the form on this page

 

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4 minutes ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

anyone know the best resources on becoming good at this thing

look deep within yourself and you'll find the best resource there is

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https://www.elektronauts.com/t/a-polished-version-of-merlins-ot-guide-here/42860

 

Or do what I did and book a show before you actually get it so you have a hard deadline.  I just barely learned enough to pull off a semi-improvised, 25 minute set in about 20 days with that method, and I think it worked well.  It's easier to not get caught up with trying to do everything when you know in a couple weeks you'll have to be able to pull of something in front of an audience.

 

I've been using it for 4 years now and I'd say I've learned maybe 15% of it really well at this point. I've still never used the arranger.

 

EDIT: I'm also using it in a completely different way now than I did the first year. Almost no overlap.

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2 hours ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

anyone know the best resources on becoming good at this thing

Cuckoo tutorials on youtube. 

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