ZoeB Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I've been trying to somewhat organise what we know about these. Did I miss anything? Untitled, 4 tracks Untitled, 6 tracks Untitled, 14 tracks Untitled, about 16 tracks New Chapter Serious Tunes for Nice People Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodhidharma Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 ooooh r these legit legit? never heard of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Jan Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 During the soundcloud dump madness there were a few oldschool mates of his who posted photo's of the tapes they got from him back in the day with handscribbled track titles. Not really demo's I'd reckon, just giving out various random tracks to mates? One of them I recall was Manuel Sepulveda, who was the face of Bradley Strider back in the day:https://www.instagram.com/p/4E7BKIKBGL/?taken-by=manu_sepuHere are a few:Serious Tunes For Nice People:https://www.instagram.com/p/yXOI1TqBK4/?taken-by=manu_sepuhttps://www.instagram.com/p/yXN1qNqBKZ/?taken-by=manu_sepuhttps://www.instagram.com/p/yXNvEsqBKN/?taken-by=manu_sepuNew Chapter: https://www.instagram.com/p/yXNqZ1qBKG/?taken-by=manu_sepu Bonus features: https://www.instagram.com/p/BL339dohcgi/?taken-by=manu_sepuhttps://www.instagram.com/p/BL34PIYBXro/?taken-by=manu_sepuI remember at least one other person posting pics of another tape or two, so. Some of them we got, some of them we didn't, or maybe we did but with different titles. Hard to say, don't get your hopes up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodhidharma Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 oh i do actually remember seeing those insta posts, really nice seeing those orig pressings come out of the woodwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Not really demo's I'd reckon, just giving out various random tracks to mates? True. I'm not sure what the term is for them. They're not really promos either. Or mixtapes. Just... tapes of your own music, given to your friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolkeyZ865 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 My ghost will rest easy if I hear Clitorol Stimulai and Confessions of a Mad Twat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodhidharma Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Clitorol Stimulai how to eat powsi with richard d james Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolkeyZ865 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Clitorol Stimulai how to eat powsi with richard d james Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 damn, i thought there were downloads.. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cern Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Can not play them at all.. that musicbrainz site is really weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronical Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Can not play them at all.. that musicbrainz site is really weird. It's not a site with files, it's musicbrainz– like a big dick metadata database Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I'd say these are in the vein of "tapes given to mates", but note that he was aware that his stuff could be nicked, so he kept the quality of the recordings "minimal", and provided contact info (I suppose in the case one of these tapes made it to a label head). I'd love it if Mike P would provide more info on the 11 C-90s (of which I assume some of these tapes are) of material Richard gave to mates to play in their cars (and some of which would eventually wind up as Selected Ambient Works 85-92)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganus Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 There's some cool alternate names for SC tracks on the tapes from Manuel Sepulveda's instagram. Would be awesome to hear some of these as playlists - seems like mostly a mix of stuff that got released, and stuff from thr SC dump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 I'd say these are in the vein of "tapes given to mates", but note that he was aware that his stuff could be nicked, so he kept the quality of the recordings "minimal", and provided contact info (I suppose in the case one of these tapes made it to a label head). Didn't he go lo-fi for the simple pleasure of it anyway though? From the Syrobonkers interview: ...when my recording equip was crap, I used to try and make it even crapper , like use the worst rusty leads, crap cassettes etc etc everything on worst or lo sampling rates... Low fidelity's character building, if you want to go that way. (I've been looking at some of his tracks' spectrograms lately, and it's funny to see how many are obviously either Compact Cassette, DAT longplay, or Compact Cassette format shifted to DAT longplay, with no reconstruction filter to speak of when playing it back so you get all these reflections above 16kHz... and then people talk about how great it sounds, how it must be at least really high quality chrome tapes, and how they're itching to get 24-bit or vinyl versions for the supposed boost in quality...) I think the music's more important than the recording process, or at least making the recordings technically worse makes them more cosy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohm Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I think the music's more important than the recording process, or at least making the recordings technically worse makes them more cosy... Yep. It took me a few years working in studios and then another five or six working for a label to finally give up worrying about the process, the release format, sample rates, compression rates and a thousand other technicalities and just worry about whether the music was shit or great and whether the way it's released is interesting or deathly dull. So give me the Soundcloud dump over twelve tracks on a plastic disc every few years every tme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I certainly agree about how lo-fi gives a charm to some music - and as Zoe mentioned, the music itself is the point. One thing I could never understand about Richard's music (and electronic music in general) is it sounds very "flat" - most pop music has great stereo separation, panning, etc. whereas most electronic music lacks that and has a barely perceivable stereo mix on a lot of tracks. Is it just me, or does anyone else notice that? Or is it because pop music is overproduced? Either way, I think setting the source material aside, pop music sounds better to my ears sonically than a lot of electronic music, which in my mind should be the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 One thing I could never understand about Richard's music (...) is it sounds very "flat" - most pop music has great stereo separation, panning, etc. I completely disagree, most of his stuff post Drukqs is 3D as fuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaggerMcGuirk Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 One thing I could never understand about Richard's music (...) is it sounds very "flat" - most pop music has great stereo separation, panning, etc. I completely disagree, most of his stuff post Drukqs is 3D as fuck! Yup. Syro and Cheetah are perfect examples of this. Though maybe that has to do with newer mastering techniques? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lada Laika Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 The further outside of dance music you get, the more the stereo field is used, I've found. Artists like Holly Herndon, Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith, and Koen Holtkamp etc. Although I've always found AFX's post-SAW85-92 output to be pretty expansive and rich (pun intended). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qualitycontrol Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Seems to me that POP music, given its wide reach, was treated more as an institution where you have a team of people working with the "artist" to create something that will appeal to the widest audience possible. And therefore, it needed to be mastered professionally so that sonic integrity is preserved across a wide range of consumer listening equipment. Electronic music (and artists featured on this forum) came from the underground / DIY type mentality, where the music / feel / (and in the case of dance music) ability to ramp people up came first-- not so much the "consumer" based "product" end-goal of pop music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Plus it's generally made for da club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 The further outside of dance music you get, the more the stereo field is used, I've found. It's used loads in psytrance too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronical Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 The further outside of dance music you get, the more the stereo field is used, I've found. It's used loads in psytrance too. What psytrance could you recommend me Rotwang? I don't see it discussed much besides rubbish genre bashing on the net (especially around braindance forums ahem) and would love some out there recommendations :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 What psytrance could you recommend me Rotwang? I don't see it discussed much besides rubbish genre bashing on the net (especially around braindance forums ahem) and would love some out there recommendations :) Don't want to derail the thread, I'll write you a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronical Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Don't want to derail the thread, I'll write you a PM. Thanks :) Also sorta on topic, I wonder if this is on one of the tapes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpWwtYo9V5s there's also this, which I'd love to have an ID of if it's not AFX.. sorta psytrancey too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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