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I don't believe this! Aphex repackaged and sold on vinyl :|

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Yeah, there's some real fucking laziness in vaporwave, and this is one of the worst examples. It's not even slowed down enough to make it sound notably different, like the 2047 'Snow' album (which was huge sections of Solar Fields tracks just slowed down, but they were slowed down quite a bit and the effect was quite different - I actually preferred them like that, ha). Had no idea this had been put on vinyl though. Ridiculous!

 

First thing I thought of. I think that actually got some blowback. This deserves the same.

 

 

YAH SO, sort of related this whole pirating debate...  One thing I did wonder, is why IDM-esque stuff is so infrequently sampled, in the IDM-esque genres.  Like it's totally cool to sample James Brown for some reason, but if I sample and slow down just a bit of Aphex Twin's 4 in my own track and loop it, it'd sound like a cheap steal.  I dunno.  Maybe we all need to sample each other more.

Recontextualisation is key.

 

 

exactly - it's a subtle difference and subjective as hell but context is everything.

 

there's a sort of canon of what's expected to be sampled, something that doesn't fit that just seems "wrong" - and stuff that most deem lazy or cheap to sample - like this Aphex Twin track - I would say it would be cool to sample if it was utilized in a unique or clever way. in other words it demands a higher standard in how it's flipped.

 

This also samples Aphex Twin and it's completely opposite in effect. This is sincere and beautiful.

 

 

vaporwave was once this way - eccojams and floral shoppe had hefty samples but they were chopped up, flipped, and often unexpected sources - prime fodder included deep cuts of 80s pop, new age, muzak, cheezy jazz from the early 90s, JP city pop and OST music, etc. - but releases like this water down and cheapen it a lot. 

 

As you say, the real crime is just how creatively lazy it is. At least cut the tracks up and do some interesting edits with them. It's an insult against sampling to just pitch it down and call it done.

 

this - it's a fine line sometimes but there is a line between good sampling and bad sampling

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As you say, the real crime is just how creatively lazy it is. At least cut the tracks up and do some interesting edits with them. It's an insult against sampling to just pitch it down and call it done.

This... at least make a half-assed attempt to advance the art. If you don't know how to flip a sample creatively but you want to collect and arrange other people's tracks, do DJ a type mix, label it as such, and give credit where credit's due.

 

I interpret "great artists steal" as: great artists take other people's existing ideas and, yes, recontextualize or synthesize them in a way that it creates a truly new thing. This ain't it.

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Vaporwave is lame enough by itself.

 

And now vaporwave ripping off AFX?

 

hahaha

 

Uber-lame

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This also samples Aphex Twin and it's completely opposite in effect. This is sincere and beautiful.

 

 

 

 

 

:(

 

RIP Susumu

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This also samples Aphex Twin and it's completely opposite in effect. This is sincere and beautiful.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzPVf6ggSd8

 

 

 

:(

 

RIP Susumu

Is this really Aphex (Avril 14th, I assume)? I've heard this dozens of times and never noticed. RIP Susumu indeed, he really was committed to beauty.

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flol vaporwave this stuff was crap from the very beginning (a few old tunes lol)

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vaporwave is great, but when it's done lazily it's terrible. 

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This also samples Aphex Twin and it's completely opposite in effect. This is sincere and beautiful.

 

 

:(

 

RIP Susumu

Is this really Aphex (Avril 14th, I assume)? I've heard this dozens of times and never noticed. RIP Susumu indeed, he really was committed to beauty.

 

Nanou2, last track from Drukqs.

Edited by Diabrotikos

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vaporwave is great, but when it's done lazily it's terrible.

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who cares?

 

:cerious:

 

uhh...lots of people?

 

i'm sure HFM knows we know it's afx, I don't think they're trying to hide it or anything. but selling this on vinyl is wrong. 

 

 

tbh, the thread title made me vomit, hence the snarky post.

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vaporwave is great, but when it's done lazily it's terrible.

 

 

Almost like every genre/flavour of ART

 

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This is sampling taken to its end-game, logical conclusion.

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hah yes spiral, very true. but vaporwave is more permissive and accepting of extreme laziness because it already has its foot in the door on the concept of sampling and re contextualisation. a lot of vw fans would defend this like 'hey man that's what vaporwave is about just taking things and slowing them down' when all my favourite albums in the genre go wayy beyond this description. 

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Posting in an Aphex subforum thread.

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If good music's purpose is to spread good vibez and improve people's lives, it really should be freely shared, in whatever form. The concept of "credit"- when it comes to improving lives of many- is the ego holding onto something that far surpasses its domain.

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So I'm trawling through bandcamp checking bits and pieces out ... and I hear something similar on a release.

 

This is basically (literally) IZ-US slowed down. Not a bad days work to rip and then push the music at $21 a go. 

 

https://haircutsformen.bandcamp.com/track/--30

 

'we are the music takers' it seems

 

but it was skillfully slowed down. the art is to find the best possible speed rounded to 74 decimal places

 

what can i say? great speed man! great speed

 

edit: speedwave?

Edited by xox

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