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#176 Kavinsky

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 07:03 AM

echo is dope



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Posted 02 June 2018 - 08:14 AM

it is indeed

 

i realised my high cpu MAY (not sure yet) have been due to oversampling on the glue



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Posted 07 June 2018 - 02:54 PM

I've noticed my CPU usage has increased as well... might be all of those M4L LFOs that I am using, though. They're incredibly fun to use and you can route them to anything  :w00t:



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Posted 26 January 2019 - 10:05 AM

[try and] Ignore the wubwubstep, but there's a new m4l device for Ableton that is gonna add a lot of Bitwig-esque modulation tools:



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Posted 26 January 2019 - 10:24 AM

Wow, that's promising.

Now I just have to find a way to get the Max4Live licence I bought when using Live 9 to work with my Live 10 copy. One could think it'd be easy... but it's not :S



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Posted 26 January 2019 - 10:26 AM

Doesn't M4L come with 10 now? Isn't it fully integrated?



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Posted 26 January 2019 - 10:50 AM

Not with the Standard, and I have zero interest in Suite (but in m4l). With Live 9 you could simply buy it as an add-on.



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Posted 26 January 2019 - 11:26 AM

One could think it'd be easy... but it's not :S

Aye it is...
 

Max for Live is included with Live 10 Suite, but can be purchased as an add-on for Live 10 Standard as well. If you upgraded from Live 9 Standard to Live 10 Standard and already own a license for Max for Live, or have purchased Max for Live as an addition to your Live 10 Standard license, you can activate your license of Max for Live by going to Live's Preference's > Licenses/Maintenance tab and clicking "Authorize at Ableton.com". You will then be able to use Max for Live devices and instruments in Live.

At this point you could even uninstall Max 7, as Live 10 will use the bundled version of Max instead.

https://help.ableton...Live-in-Live-10

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 01:40 PM

Thank you! I'm afraid I have to contact Ableton's support though as my M4L licence doesn't appear in my account nor when I launch Live.

 

Anyway I'm really looking forward to using this Signal thingie, it might totally suppress the temptation to switch to Bitwig.

That new add-on should make production in Live much more enjoyable as I learn Loomer's Architect and TidalCycles (am equally enthusiast to use both).



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Posted 27 January 2019 - 04:11 AM


Anyway I'm really looking forward to using this Signal thingie, it might totally suppress the temptation to switch to Bitwig.

 

 

incidentally, how is bitwig these days?



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Posted 27 January 2019 - 05:44 AM



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Posted 27 January 2019 - 02:29 PM

[try and] Ignore the wubwubstep, but there's a new m4l device for Ableton that is gonna add a lot of Bitwig-esque modulation tools:

 

Who is making this?



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Posted 27 January 2019 - 02:38 PM

user: http://isotonikstudi...x58spTdg0uI-CiU



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Posted 27 January 2019 - 02:41 PM

Here's a full length explanation/introduction:

Click to view on Vimeo.com

It's a little expensive, but for what it adds I'm sure it'll be worth it (currently 10 quid off) - https://isotonikstud...product/signal/

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 12:41 AM

It's a little expensive

You can say that again ... 60 quid for a user friendly interface wrapped around the M4L Live API ... Ouch!

I'm sure it took a lot of effort to build and I'm glad someone put in that effort, but still ...

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 02:15 AM

Expensive, but possibly so useful and quite a timesaver (for my workflow at least). Trying to sort out my M4L licence hiccups with Ableton then might definitely buy Signal. They got me at audio rate modulation, (allegedly) proper DPC and almost unlimited mapping.



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Posted 28 January 2019 - 06:19 AM

 

Thanks!

 

I don't think it's that expensive if you consider how much time must have gone into developing and creating all these devices, writing documentation and then having to offer updates and support for a while which isotonik are pretty good at in my experience and then you have to take into account the relatively small market for this.


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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:00 AM

Theres just too much need for clicking around

 

Software developers need to develop instruments that dont require expensive midi interfaces or programming to get that organic playable feel

 

Trackers were waaaaaay ahead of their time



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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:16 AM

Trackers are amazing.. and Renoise has to fix High Sierra / Mojave bugs, so that I can use it again :)

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 08:31 AM

Why don't they make Live 10 a subscription service because the price is ridiculously high?!?!?



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Posted 28 January 2019 - 08:36 AM

a subscription service

Ugh no definitely not, I don't want to stop being able to use an application just because I can't cough up the funds for that particular month/year. The way I got a decent deal was getting a MIDI controller that had a free copy of Ableton Live Intro, then later bought an upgrade from Intro -> Suite during one of their annual 33% off sales (or it might've been a sale when A9 was just announced so you could buy A8 at a discounted rate and then get a free update when the new one was released)

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:03 AM

That would only get more expensive.



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Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:51 AM

Why don't they make Live 10 a subscription service because the price is ridiculously high?!?!?


Fuck that so hard. I’m not paying monthly for any software. Give me something I can buy outright and use whenever I want in perpetuity. Charge me for updates if you want Idgaf. But I’m never pulling an Adobe and “subscribing” to a DAW.

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:52 AM

Are those signal moduls editable in max?

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:56 AM

May well break things but I imagine so, any m4l device is editable within max as far as I'm aware (that's why you generally don't get demo devices (except specifically created ones with modules removed) as it's so open)