TRiP 6 Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) Pretty tasty design https://www.moogmusic.com/news/introducing-grandmother Edited May 15, 2018 by TRiP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIXL2 205 Posted May 15, 2018 sounds cool but not $899 cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Sensi 4 Posted May 15, 2018 Sounds and looks dope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TRiP 6 Posted May 15, 2018 tis' a shame about the price indeed...if money wasn't an option i'd swipe up the whole Mother range and just lock myself away they've really stepped up their marketing game, making them seem as if they are the only synths you'd need if you were stranded on a desert island or what have you just even looking at this from 8 years back - swapping out the dark rooms for pretty windows and flowers on desks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TubularCorporation 110 Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) Realistic MG-1 form factor! I know it's based on the Rogue not the MG-1 but the MG-1 is cooler. EDIT: if you can route external audio through the spring reverb tank that makes the price more compelling, considering that even a Danelectro Spring King is over $100. Edited May 15, 2018 by RSP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mesh Gear Fox 27 Posted May 16, 2018 what a weird name for a synth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thawkins 91 Posted May 16, 2018 what a weird name for a synth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stock 46 Posted May 17, 2018 what a weird name for a synthYeah when I first saw it on fb I thought it was a private joke from the "synth memes" group lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Braintree 246 Posted May 17, 2018 Realistic MG-1 form factor! I know it's based on the Rogue not the MG-1 but the MG-1 is cooler. EDIT: if you can route external audio through the spring reverb tank that makes the price more compelling, considering that even a Danelectro Spring King is over $100. I really like the MG-1 and would probably just get one of those opposed to the Grandmother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TubularCorporation 110 Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Realistic MG-1 form factor! I know it's based on the Rogue not the MG-1 but the MG-1 is cooler. EDIT: if you can route external audio through the spring reverb tank that makes the price more compelling, considering that even a Danelectro Spring King is over $100. I really like the MG-1 and would probably just get one of those opposed to the Grandmother. I had one for years and years (got it for $25 in 2004 or -5 but had to replace all of the controls, which had been smashed, so it ended up being more like $125 total), ended up trading it to a friend for a Roland RS-09 which was a good deal for both of us, since I was in to the MG-1 for about 1/3 the value of an RS09, but the RS-09 is worth about 2/3 what an MG-1 goes for. He ended up trading it in for a Mother 32, and then I ended up buying the Mother 32 from him for about half the street price. Over all I prefer the Mother 32 to the MG-1 and I don't really miss it - the Mother32 is about as much Moog sound as I personally need, and the RS-09 covers all of the territory of the MG-1's "polyphony" section - but the one thing about it I really miss is the oscillator sync. For some reason, the sync on the MG-1 sounded better to me than any other synth with sync that I've gotten to try, including some fancier Moogs. Bell Tone was cool, too. But I'd rather have the RS-09 any day, a string synth has a lot more character these days than yet another Moog variant (plus it has the external audio input for running stuff through the chorus and lowpass filter, which is endlessly useful). But yeah, if I had $800 or whatever to spend and had to get a Moog monosynth with it, I'd rather get an MG-1 and the parts to mod it heavily than get one of these. At bare minimum, you really need to tweak the resistor values in the keyboard to get the response better to really get the most out of it, it was pretty sluggish with the stock values, and felt like playing a VST on an underpowered computer. Edited May 17, 2018 by RSP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBro 80 Posted May 18, 2018 Love the design but as others have said the price is pretty steep!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TubularCorporation 110 Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) On the other hand, if you adjust for inflation an MG-1 would have been the equivalent of $1300 MSRP back in 1982 and that was by far the cheapest Moog you could get, so in light of that the price of this thing (and modern synths in general, even the expensive ones) is pretty impressively low. This stuff was so undervalued in the 90s and most of the 2000s that it's easy to forget even the inflated prices of most used vintage synths today are actually pretty much in line with their new prices. $1500-$1800 for a well maintained Juno 60 seems a lot less absurd when you remember its MSRP was the equivalent of over $4300.00 in 2018. The last 5 or 6 years is the first time in history that new analog synthesizers have been even vaguely affordable for normal people. Edited May 18, 2018 by RSP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thawkins 91 Posted May 19, 2018 Besides the synth itself, something that caught my attention in that video is that Moog is an employee owned company. I looked up what this means, and it seems basically that 49% of the company is owned by employees through a trust. I am not so up to date with financial schemes, but I take it to mean that whenever you buy Moog stuff, it's probably made by people who give more than two shits about their work and the product, and all the cash isn't just going in some CEO's pocket. Personally I am not in the market for any analog synths at the moment, but knowing the details about this makes me feel a lot better about paying a premium for their stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squee 208 Posted May 19, 2018 The price isn't that bad. It's only a tiny bit more expensive than the Sub Phatty which is a pretty straightforward synth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TubularCorporation 110 Posted May 19, 2018 Besides the synth itself, something that caught my attention in that video is that Moog is an employee owned company. I looked up what this means, and it seems basically that 49% of the company is owned by employees through a trust. I am not so up to date with financial schemes, but I take it to mean that whenever you buy Moog stuff, it's probably made by people who give more than two shits about their work and the product, and all the cash isn't just going in some CEO's pocket. Personally I am not in the market for any analog synths at the moment, but knowing the details about this makes me feel a lot better about paying a premium for their stuff. Yeah, that's also a very good thing and something that makes me feel weird about the various Korgs and Rolands and Behringers and everything (although for me personally it's not a big issue since I've never actually bought anything from any of the major manufacturers new, so theyhaven't seen a dime of my money - actually I did buy a Presonus headphone amp new once in a pinch because I needed something THAT DAY, and I bought a DR-660, two Tascam portastudios, a Dunlop wah, a DOD volume pedal and one Digitech multi-effects unit new back in the 90s... and that's about it as far as buying gear new from major manufacturers goes for me, not for political reasons or anything jsut because I can't afford to get stuf new, but it also feels good knowing I'm not throwing my money at places like that, especially after knowing a bunch of people who worked at Akai/Alesis/Numark/Ion/etc. over the years and have all sorts of horror stories about rampant sexual harassment and other unpleasantness in the upper levels of those companies). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TRiP 6 Posted May 19, 2018 Besides the synth itself, something that caught my attention in that video is that Moog is an employee owned company. I looked up what this means, and it seems basically that 49% of the company is owned by employees through a trust. I am not so up to date with financial schemes, but I take it to mean that whenever you buy Moog stuff, it's probably made by people who give more than two shits about their work and the product, and all the cash isn't just going in some CEO's pocket. Personally I am not in the market for any analog synths at the moment, but knowing the details about this makes me feel a lot better about paying a premium for their stuff. Only joking Tis' a fair point...if I had a real job and could afford nice treats for myself, this would definatley be on the list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Sumbitches 6 Posted May 19, 2018 Haven't listened to any clips yet but purely from an aesthetic standpoint this rude boy is gorgeous, imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TubularCorporation 110 Posted May 19, 2018 Haven't listened to any clips yet but purely from an aesthetic standpoint this rude boy is gorgeous, imo It looks like an MG-1, a vintage Acoustic amp and a pile of late 70s MXR guitar pedals having an orgy. Which is 100% compliment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stock 46 Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) The more I see/hear demos of this thing the more I want one. Problem is, the only "real" synth I own is also a monophonic semi-modular synth (MS20 mini) but I'm considering selling it to get the Grand Mother, I don't know Edited May 21, 2018 by StocKo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acid1 31 Posted May 21, 2018 I really wish this came with actual moog eurorack modules, and you could swap them in or out with other eurorack. Also seems like I'd really only reach for this thing if I wanted insta space music. It sounds really good. The look..... hurts my head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omnii 10 Posted May 21, 2018 The second i saw the design i thought "This looks like something that Grandaddy would use" before i even noticed the word "Grandmother". It is a very appealing synth aesthetically and the reverb tank would be lovely but i have a Sub37 and can't justify both at this point in my life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites