Guest Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 humans != art. that's all there is to it imo. art has no brain. if you really only want to support perfectly clean personalities you might just as well give up completely cos everyone is a bit shit sometimes, non? yeh.. feel like this focus on “safe” & “fair” content by fair and agreeable people will ruin a lot of things.. if the production of creative stuffs is going to be cleansed off difficult / troubled / misanthrope or whatever people - and I think this is happening.. the odd weirdo might think twice before coming forward with some outrageous, personal artwork, might get run over by the SJW train, it’s bad ROI or they might even get hurt.. right? like you don’t need to have skeletons in your basement to be scared that someone might just point at you being a “potential” bad boo boo because you have some conflicting inner world.. I mean at this point it’s still largely mainstream culture that’s affected, couldn’t care less, but this overall Disneyfication of stuff, mostly caused by social media web services seems to bubble into subcultures as well.. better hop on the safe & clean wagon before the guillotine comes for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) humans != art. that's all there is to it imo. art has no brain. if you really only want to support perfectly clean personalities you might just as well give up completely cos everyone is a bit shit sometimes, non? yeh.. feel like this focus on “safe” & “fair” content by fair and agreeable people will ruin a lot of things.. if the production of creative stuffs is going to be cleansed off difficult / troubled / misanthrope or whatever people - and I think this is happening.. the odd weirdo might think twice before coming forward with some outrageous, personal artwork, might get run over by the SJW train, it’s bad ROI or they might even get hurt.. right? like you don’t need to have skeletons in your basement to be scared that someone might just point at you being a “potential” bad boo boo because you have some conflicting inner world.. I mean at this point it’s still largely mainstream culture that’s affected, couldn’t care less, but this overall Disneyfication of stuff, mostly caused by social media web services seems to bubble into subcultures as well.. better hop on the safe & clean wagon before the guillotine comes for you... like not even anything about PC vs. non-PC but like, without going into paranoia I'm a big-time headphone user, to me like the speaker effect is like hearing your own voice, when you play back a recording of your voice and you're like "boy my voice sounds weird", lol, if that makes sense. With headphones I feel like you subvert that but yeah I would explain as 'own voice sounds weird' instead of going into some philosophical shit like everyone feels their music/their creation is being judged by a nonexistent God or some shit Edited May 24, 2018 by Ragnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 k ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 humans != art. that's all there is to it imo. art has no brain. if you really only want to support perfectly clean personalities you might just as well give up completely cos everyone is a bit shit sometimes, non? yeh.. feel like this focus on “safe” & “fair” content by fair and agreeable people will ruin a lot of things.. if the production of creative stuffs is going to be cleansed off difficult / troubled / misanthrope or whatever people - and I think this is happening.. the odd weirdo might think twice before coming forward with some outrageous, personal artwork, might get run over by the SJW train, it’s bad ROI or they might even get hurt.. right? like you don’t need to have skeletons in your basement to be scared that someone might just point at you being a “potential” bad boo boo because you have some conflicting inner world.. I mean at this point it’s still largely mainstream culture that’s affected, couldn’t care less, but this overall Disneyfication of stuff, mostly caused by social media web services seems to bubble into subcultures as well.. better hop on the safe & clean wagon before the guillotine comes for you... like not even anything about PC vs. non-PC but like, without going into paranoia I'm a big-time headphone user, to me like the speaker effect is like hearing your own voice, when you play back a recording of your voice and you're like "boy my voice sounds weird", lol, if that makes sense. With headphones I feel like you subvert that but yeah I would explain as 'own voice sounds weird' instead of going into some philosophical shit like everyone feels their music/their creation is being judged by a nonexistent God or some shit what the hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) humans != art. that's all there is to it imo. art has no brain. if you really only want to support perfectly clean personalities you might just as well give up completely cos everyone is a bit shit sometimes, non? yeh.. feel like this focus on “safe” & “fair” content by fair and agreeable people will ruin a lot of things.. if the production of creative stuffs is going to be cleansed off difficult / troubled / misanthrope or whatever people - and I think this is happening.. the odd weirdo might think twice before coming forward with some outrageous, personal artwork, might get run over by the SJW train, it’s bad ROI or they might even get hurt.. right? like you don’t need to have skeletons in your basement to be scared that someone might just point at you being a “potential” bad boo boo because you have some conflicting inner world.. I mean at this point it’s still largely mainstream culture that’s affected, couldn’t care less, but this overall Disneyfication of stuff, mostly caused by social media web services seems to bubble into subcultures as well.. better hop on the safe & clean wagon before the guillotine comes for you... like not even anything about PC vs. non-PC but like, without going into paranoia I'm a big-time headphone user, to me like the speaker effect is like hearing your own voice, when you play back a recording of your voice and you're like "boy my voice sounds weird", lol, if that makes sense. With headphones I feel like you subvert that but yeah I would explain as 'own voice sounds weird' instead of going into some philosophical shit like everyone feels their music/their creation is being judged by a nonexistent God or some shit what the hell eh chill out, I'm just like saying that there are like creative avenues maybe people don't explore on more subtle terms, or something. Like if you do use headphones maybe you'll go for 'louder' music than you would otherwise because you're not intruding on someone's personal space, too also just mainstream vs. non-mainstream, 99% of the world isn't gonna hear the tunes or care anyway Edited May 24, 2018 by Ragnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I cannot comprehend ragnars posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 god was just referring to phenomenon like this https://www.nbcnews.com/health/body-odd/why-you-hate-sound-your-own-voice-f1C9173592 if the creative output is one's 'voice' to an extent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Yeah we all know what you're talking about. We're confused as to how it follows from the post you are quoting. The answer is it doesn't. It was just an excuse to talk about yourself again. Autistic narcissism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Yeah we all know what you're talking about. We're confused as to how it follows from the post you are quoting. The answer is it doesn't. It was just an excuse to talk about yourself again. Autistic narcissism :( yeah it wasn't so relevant to the topic, except like if there's already the context of being an asshole, the self-consciousness isn't there, and maybe self-consciousness leads to shitty music. I'm also just hella tired rn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 secrets of level 2 in bubsy 3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Ullillilia is pure. No skeletons there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I cannot comprehend ragnars posts I think that what Ragnar is trying to say is that being hesitant to publish potentially controversial art because of an oversensitive judgemental crowd finding pleasure in pointing fingers at people is in fact the fear of your own self-judgement that becomes more prevalent when the work gets public attention. Publishing work might make the author reflect on that work differently than when it stays private so it can be seen as the equivalent of listening to your own voice and thinking it is weird. I think that is what Ragnar was trying to say but admittedly it was a bit hard to figure out. I think hello spiral has no idea what autism means and that the word shouldn't be abused to insult people because it's a slap in the face for everyone who really suffers from that disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) nobody actually pontificates upon the nature of the universe when listening to Autechre, it actually beams Bubsy 3D thoughts into ur head I cannot comprehend ragnars posts I think hello spiral has no idea what autism means and that the word shouldn't be abused to insult people because it's a slap in the face for everyone who really suffers from that disease. it's dangerously Trump-esque thing to do tbh, like that hand flap speech or whatever he did Edit: also if my posts are ever obtuse on the forum was it really unexpected given the music I write Edited May 24, 2018 by Ragnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) it was sort of tangential but I was getting at the nature of music/etc. that has a 'raw' or unfiltered feeling regardless of whether the person is morally off like the original topic the God part was mostly jokey, like making up something on the spot how Freud would explain/rationalize it, I guess Edited May 24, 2018 by Ragnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 You know me and u are good rag, I don't hate you. TOUGH LOVE is what this is. I own around 150 of your albums. Darreich on the other hand can go fuck himself. Fucking edgelord truth hacker prick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 You know me and u are good rag, I don't hate you. TOUGH LOVE is what this is. I own around 150 of your albums. Darreich on the other hand can go fuck himself. Fucking edgelord truth hacker prick. I like darreichungsform though, what an awkward love triangle this is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 It's very romantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YangYing Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I love u all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 enjoying art from an artist who is less than umami (sorry, kill me now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triachus Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) I think hello spiral has no idea what autism means and that the word shouldn't be abused to insult people because it's a slap in the face for everyone who really suffers from that disease. yet you're the one calling autism a disease you prick in before darreichs usual defense: Edited May 24, 2018 by triachus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) I think hello spiral has no idea what autism means and that the word shouldn't be abused to insult people because it's a slap in the face for everyone who really suffers from that disease. yet you're the one calling autism a disease you prick in before darreichs usual defense: https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism/diagnosis/dsm-5-diagnostic-criteria It is listed as a mental disease edit: Before you say it's a disorder and not a disease, read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder Synonyms Psychiatric disorder, psychological disorder, mental illness, mental disease Edited May 24, 2018 by darreichungsform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 autism is a choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Autism Speaks? Are you fucking serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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