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Melve midi


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#1 ceiling

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 01:28 PM

Has anyone ever got round to transcribing melve?

Would love to have a gander at the midi and potentially try to learn it on piano.

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Posted 27 July 2018 - 10:42 PM

???

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Posted 27 July 2018 - 11:31 PM

https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

 

here you go, i used ableton's audio->midi. i had it set to 101bpm as it didn't seem to line up on a grid correctly. providing for educational purposes so you can research how cool autechre are ;)



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Posted 28 July 2018 - 07:29 AM

Thanks!!! much appreciated 

 

such a great song

 

I tried to do it with melodyne but it just wasn't translating very well. Perhaps abletons audio to midi is superior, which would be odd. 



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Posted 28 July 2018 - 07:37 AM

I just played this is Sunvox...
So great.
Thank you.

I had no idea ableton had such a feature.

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Posted 28 July 2018 - 06:18 PM

Ah, will put some of their stuff into my Studio One/Melodyne. Melve quite often is my ringtone or alarm clock track btw.

#7 Mesh Gear Fox

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Posted 28 July 2018 - 08:51 PM

the ableton audio to midi can be a bit off but thankfully when the source material is as stripped back as this song is it's pretty spot on.



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Posted 28 July 2018 - 11:46 PM

The notation of that midi is full wrong.

I rad it in Sibelius and it's notated in 4/4 with very strange note values. I try to figure it out.



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Posted 29 July 2018 - 01:12 AM

It's really hard to figure this out, because the note values are bloody wrong (reason is false tempo recognition) and the midi transcribes the reverb with written out sustained notes, and everything in written in octaves in just one stuff, so i won't finish any time soon. But here the beginning...

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Edited by Chabraendeky, 29 July 2018 - 01:13 AM.


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Posted 29 July 2018 - 01:19 AM

yeah i don't really think it's set to a grid or anything, or maybe it jumps between two tempos back and forward.



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Posted 05 August 2018 - 11:59 AM

Widi_Std is a useful program. Not free, but it does a better job than most of detecting voice, synth, and other sound sound sources with potentially tenuous harmonics (in my somewhat limited experience). I've not tried the Ableton option, though.

 

The fourth option down is the one I use:

 

https://www.widisoft...lish/order.html

 

You need to let it know what the BPM (of the original piece) is before exporting, or it won't align to a grid. I tap along on a Kaoss Pad to figure it out :)


Edited by Mic, 05 August 2018 - 12:00 PM.


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Posted 05 August 2018 - 01:32 PM

i'll transcribe it later. it should be in 3/4 for simplicity's sake.

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 04:34 PM

Anyone willing to do this with Vose In?



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Posted 05 August 2018 - 10:51 PM

i'll transcribe it later. it should be in 3/4 for simplicity's sake.

I tought so too at first, but 8/4 is even better.

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 11:29 PM

Anyone willing to do this with Vose In?

 

I can at least say that the first repeating chord sequence is pretty simple. 

 

first chord: minor third ( A3 C4 )

second chord: perfect fifth (F#3 C#4 )

third: octave (C2 C3)

fourth: major sixth (G3 E4)

 

then eventually it does some other stuff



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 04:20 AM

i'm telling yall it's not 'on the grid'. they most likely defined the timing between notes in ms not with any sort of musical timing



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 04:42 AM

Yeah the BPM is definitely all over the shop

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:13 AM

BPM all over the place.

 

Sorry I didn't post it earlier, it's quite precise but wanted to improve it a bit.

 

MIDI file soon, it's worth making an effort to transcribe it though. Just set time signature to 2/4 or 4/4 (i used 4/4), don't bother with 3/4 etc. Stretch the tempo map to match the speed of the music (that alone takes quite a bit of time) and don't worry if a melodic resolution doesn't fall on the '1'.

 

I'm wondering whether the melody has anything to do with the logistic equation, seeing as there's some resemblance to a bifurcation diagram.

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:28 AM

Yeah that end bit is very interesting, like the top bit goes up exponentially and the bottom linearly. That can't be a coincidence ....