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IDM and narcissism of small differences


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#1 Zeffolia

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 02:44 AM

https://en.wikipedia...all_differences

 

Is IDM better than most electronic music that exists today because of all of the (redacted reasons), or is this an example of psychological narcissism of small differences and it's actually not that much better than deadmau5



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 02:46 AM

yes

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 02:51 AM

Define "better."



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 05:01 AM

yes


In just about every single aspect.

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 05:05 AM

What is IDM?

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 05:20 AM

drill n bass



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 05:24 AM

Define "better."

A substance that's somewhere between batter and butter

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 05:29 AM

To the people I know that don't listen to electronic music, Deathmouse and Aphex Twin sound the same.



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 05:42 AM

Deathmouse



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 05:43 AM

d347hm0u53

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 05:58 AM

Deafmousse



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 06:37 AM

To the people I know that don't listen to electronic music, Deathmouse and Aphex Twin sound the same.


Ha. My roommate always says 'this sounds a lot like Nine Inch Nails' when she hears any sort of electronic music.

It use to irk me, but now I just kind of roll my eyes.
=P

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 06:49 AM

Define "better."

 

opposite of ''worse''



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 07:12 AM

To the people I know that don't listen to electronic music, Deathmouse and Aphex Twin sound the same.

 

There's a Fenriz interview where he mentions that he does not judge anyone who says all metal sounds the same, even though he's something of a walking metal encyclopedia, because to him all classical music sounds similar, even though he knows it is an insanely diverse and substantial genre technically and historically.

 

It can really vary - I know very talented and musically apt people who could easily say that Deadmau5 and Aphex Twin sound the same and likewise I've chatted with absolute dolts who have the same conclusion. 



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:04 AM

I remember someone on WATMM saying that all ambient tracks sound exactly the same. :)

 

TBH, sometimes when I'm listening to some braindance it occurs to me that some tracks/artists aren't that far away from generic elevator or game music. Just add a bit of microtonality, some breakbeats and an acid bassline and there you go..

 

Then there are some "IDM" musicians that have pushed the limits quite far away from the mainstream electronic music.

 

But I don't really care. Does it make music better because it's not poppy? I like cheesy music like disco anyway. It's mostly just the general attitude and feel in music like brostep that I can't feel connected to, not that I think it is somehow subpar as artistry compared to "IDM".



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:25 AM

Not betterer



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 11:32 AM

i have a friend who anytime he hears aphex twin asks me what video game it's from



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 11:49 AM

what video game is it from?



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 11:57 AM

 

There's a Fenriz interview where he mentions that he does not judge anyone who says all metal sounds the same, even though he's something of a walking metal encyclopedia, because to him all classical music sounds similar, even though he knows it is an insanely diverse and substantial genre technically and historically.

It can really vary - I know very talented and musically apt people who could easily say that Deadmau5 and Aphex Twin sound the same and likewise I've chatted with absolute dolts who have the same conclusion. 

 

 

The irony there is Fenriz is *very* specific when describing house music. Reading his reviews of house tracks is always hilarious, it's like he invents new microgenres with each track reviewed.



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 12:05 PM

Asinine thread. If you can’t tell the difference, what are you doing here.

Edited by drome, 06 August 2018 - 12:06 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2018 - 12:10 PM

What is IDM?


moths attracted to the dark apparently

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 12:47 PM

from the related articles, perhaps even more relevant...  https://en.wikipedia...tive_narcissism

 

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 12:54 PM

*scoffs* it’s not real music is it. Guitar band narcissism confirmed.

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 12:54 PM

from the related articles, perhaps even more relevant...  https://en.wikipedia...tive_narcissism

 

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I suddenly understand identity politics much better..



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 04:40 PM

Even more interesting than comparing "IDM" to "SDM" is the narcissism of small differences within "IDM" (a.k.a Autechre vs Aphex Twin - Fight to the death - You must choose one - insert Hello Spiral meme here".