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Automated Ambient Patterns

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#1 mokz

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 09:43 AM

I started to write these tracks originally for the WATMM's Most IDM 2018 compilation ("Hiding the fact that you automated your own job"). I had fun creating them so I ended up making several and now that it seems that the compilation is never going to happen I'm going to be putting the tracks to SoundCloud..
 
Basically these are short ambient loops with shit tons of automation and randomization. They could go on playing forever. What I'll try to do is to render them to some comfortable length. 
 
A word of warning: The tracks have absolutely no structure or progression. All progress that they might seem to make is completely due to chance and they will return to form sooner or later. So if you are waiting for something more interesting to happen in the track it will not and might just as well skip the rest of it.
 
Also I made these on my mini-laptop while traveling and they are mixed with in-ear phones. So might sound horrible with proper speakers. I have no idea.
 
The software used was Renoise 3.1.1.
 
The first track maybe has a kind of Orb mood from around the Orbus Terrarum/FFWD era, but it's of course even more meandering..
 


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Posted 02 November 2018 - 10:51 AM

really nice

didn't you have the idea of making a 24/7 stream of generative ambient?



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Posted 02 November 2018 - 11:07 AM

really nice
didn't you have the idea of making a 24/7 stream of generative ambient?

Thanks!

Yeah, I think it could be possible with Renoise because I could run it on my linux VPS and share the stream through some service. Maybe need to figure out how to switch between the patterns though. I'll take a look into it when I have a decent internet connection.

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 12:03 AM

This is a bit more "melodic" maybe.

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 01:46 AM

Good stuff Mokz, these could work really well for some passive listening tracks. 

 

Dope @ Renoise, haven't used a tracker setup like that in a long time. I think SunVox for my phone was the last thing. Tbh, didn't even know you could use randomization in the sequencing in Renoise. If you do get that stream going, I will definitely check it out.



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Posted 03 November 2018 - 03:05 AM

Good stuff Mokz, these could work really well for some passive listening tracks. 

 

Dope @ Renoise, haven't used a tracker setup like that in a long time. I think SunVox for my phone was the last thing. Tbh, didn't even know you could use randomization in the sequencing in Renoise. If you do get that stream going, I will definitely check it out.

 

Thanks, man!  :beer:

 

I was actually thinking something like that. Like music to play while your working on something. I had this idea of "music for programmers" thing.. A kind of mixture between the "space ship bridge noise for 10 hours" youtube videos and randomized electro and deep techno beats. I started to work on that over a year ago but it didn't go anywhere then. Maybe need to look into it again.

 

Also this type of thing could be used for maybe background music for games? For menus and different places in the game world. Too bad that Renoise doesn't have a stand-alone player library that could incorporated into games.

 

Dope @ Renoise, haven't used a tracker setup like that in a long time. I think SunVox for my phone was the last thing. Tbh, didn't even know you could use randomization in the sequencing in Renoise. If you do get that stream going, I will definitely check it out.

 

TBH, I'm only scratching the surface with the probabilistic events and randomized LFOs. If I started to apply scripting features in Renoise I could take the generative properties to the next level. Something to look into in the future also..



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Posted 05 November 2018 - 04:58 AM

Third piece. More chaotic. Maybe could be background sounds/music for an underground maze in a video game?

 

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 02:38 AM

Third piece. More chaotic. Maybe could be background sounds/music for an underground maze in a video game?

 

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Would definitely work for that game scenario. I think I was visualizing a space traveling game, with this being the soundtrack for a planet with a sentient plant-life based species.

 

Very nice.



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Posted 06 November 2018 - 08:59 AM

Thanks again!  :beer:

 

That would work also.



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Posted 11 November 2018 - 12:59 PM

The fourth. This has simpler fx chains and is again more melodic. Maybe something like 90s braindance in 5/4 time..

 

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 01:28 PM

i like this project



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Posted 11 November 2018 - 02:13 PM

Thx, m8!



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Posted 28 November 2018 - 07:35 AM

Finally had some time (and a decent internet connection) to upload the fifth one.

 

This one is pretty dark industrial dub techno ambient thing.. lots of bitcrushing..

 

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Posted 28 November 2018 - 09:04 AM

Ok

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Posted 28 November 2018 - 10:48 AM

Ok

Response to the previous deleted comment, lol

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 03:53 AM

Cool idea (sounds are nice, too).

 

I've been thinking about doing something similar, for running music where I want some steady 180BPM beat and some random noise loops to make it not boring.

 

Id be interested to learn how you implemented this :-)



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Posted 29 November 2018 - 03:57 AM

 

Ok

Response to the previous deleted comment, lol

 

 

lol now I wanna know what they said.

I keep meaning to check this stuff out as it sounds intriguing but I always end up in this thread when I'm at work and can't listen.

 

 

***Reminder post to do so tonight***



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Posted 29 November 2018 - 09:12 AM

Cool idea (sounds are nice, too).

 

I've been thinking about doing something similar, for running music where I want some steady 180BPM beat and some random noise loops to make it not boring.

 

Id be interested to learn how you implemented this :-)

 

Thanks!

 

It's actually a bit embarrassing how simple the instruments are.. There are no VSTs. It's all samples and Renoise built-in effects and the smallest track with all the samples is only 109KB.. Almost like an old school chiptune. Mostly just basic waveforms with instrument envelopes. Some samples from the Renoise standard library heavily effected or edited and a few stolen from some tracks.. there's maybe one easily recognizable.

 

Anyway, generally the tracks are just using lots of the Renoise "maYbe" (Yxx) commands to trigger notes or phrases randomly and tons of LFOs controlling parameters and instrument macros. Also some side-chaining. Nothing really particularly advanced.

 

 

 

Ok

Response to the previous deleted comment, lol

 

 

lol now I wanna know what they said.

 

 

It was just a Trump tweet posted into a wrong thread. 



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Posted 06 December 2018 - 06:49 AM

The sixth one. This is more like ambient drone based on a single chord.

 

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 05:42 PM

This one sounds really great . Had it on headphones whilst I get stuff done at work - pretty great . You planning on putting these together for a release ?

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Posted Yesterday, 06:59 AM

Thanks, m9!

I might put them in a collection in bandcamp, but I would very much like to hear how they sound on speakers first, lol. Still on the road..

I have one more left. I think I have the time and connectivity to upload it in a few days once I get to Tbilisi.





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