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This Tory/Labour hybrid bastard offspring deal is going to be worse than May's solo deal.


The deal is dead before it's even been hatched.

The 2 main parties are dead.

The Brexit party are going to sweep away with the European Elections and then where do we stand.

Interesting / scary times.

 

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nigel farage is now actually a potential candidate for the leader of this country. britain is such a disgusting place. 

i almost believe he could have been smart enough to see this as a potential outcome to the formation of UKIP. playing the long game. 

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Latest YouGov poll from this morning....

 

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/05/13/european-parliament-voting-intention-brex-34-lab-1

 

I know you can't believe all the polls, but momentum seems to have certainly swung massively away from the big 2.

Why are Change UK not getting momentum also? What happened to the million or so that marched in London last month?

 

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1 hour ago, Soloman Tump said:

Latest YouGov poll from this morning....

 

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/05/13/european-parliament-voting-intention-brex-34-lab-1

 

I know you can't believe all the polls, but momentum seems to have certainly swung massively away from the big 2.

Why are Change UK not getting momentum also? What happened to the million or so that marched in London last month?

 

Change UK seem to be pretty incompetent, have never been impressed by Umunna, seems like an empty suit.

The million or so who marched seem to be well represented in the recent polling, seeing as the majority has steadily shifted to remain now (61% remain vs current deal in last yougov poll; or 44% remain, 28% no deal, 10% current deal in a three-way poll). Even in the MEP polls remain is in the lead.

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lib dems are only sane choice imo

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who is more brexisn't?

 

 

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On 5/13/2019 at 10:43 AM, BCM said:

lib dems are only sane choice imo

Been looking at their manifesto but it is mainly "stop this nonsense" without any detail of what they would want to do after. Pretty much just the opposite of the Brexit Party statement.

They want to "create" a 7.5 billion pound emergeny brexit support fund - how and where from?

 

 

 

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given the amount of legislation and civil service work that's required to even leave the EU, having only a single policy of 'don't leave the EU' is all that's required at this point really.

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Been looking at their manifesto but it is mainly "stop this nonsense" without any detail of what they would want to do after. Pretty much just the opposite of the Brexit Party statement.
They want to "create" a 7.5 billion pound emergeny brexit support fund - how and where from?
 
 
 
lib dems are a very well established party with their views on most issues being known already. they are climate focused, believe strongly in equality in all areas, have progressive and sensible stances on drugs and crime, and are centrist for the most part. more egalitarian and less socialist than labour, sensible on business and would be less likely to crash the whole economy into the ground a la mr corbyn.

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Or, they stood by with their thumb up their arse supporting austerity which led to Brexit in the first place.

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they didn't stand with their thumb up their arse at all. if anything they tempered the tories more extreme policies and were a force for good in the cabinet during the coalition years.

inevitable that someone will bring up tuition fees in a minute.

on that one, whilst obviously it was disappointing - they have paid a huge price and learned lessons from it. also they probably didn't have a lot of choice in the matter if they wanted some of their other policies to be accepted by the conservatives. they chose to concede on that to win in other areas. with hindsight that was the wrong thing to concede on, but like i said - lesson learned.

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austerity didn't lead to brexit anyway, it's been the end result of a very long campaign, started long before austerity, or even before the financial crash happened (under Labour's watch). the reason for brexit is that people are stupid and will fall for any old xenophobic nonsense at the drop of a hat, nothing else.

the anger over tuition fees was a joke as well, nothing wrong with them. if you end up with a degree and good paying job you should have to pay for it, it's just a graduate tax. if you can't repay your student loans you don't have to, repayments only kick in after you earn enough.

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Tuition fees that only encourage the rich to pursue a degree yet the outrage over them is a joke. Definitely time to stop posting in this thread before I begin hurling insults out of utter rage. 

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they don't only encourage the rich to pursue a degree though...i believe attendance at university from all income levels is rising and tuition fees are not seen as a huge problem by most. personally i don't agree with them and would bring back the grant system, but i don't think tuition fees are some kind of attack on the working classes or whatever.

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Lib Dems got led astray by Clegg. What doesn't fit is how/why voters dropped them b4 the Tory hordes themselves. Unfortunately Clegg has appeared w/Facefuck immediately after sharing a cabinet with Gideon, Dave et al, so that will inevitably lead to further questioning. You side w/the devil & it never ends well.

Fully agree LD's are one of the only sane(ish) options left, but they seem a protest vote in the immediate climate plus most of their more coherent top brass are either dead (Ashdown) or near death (Cable).

Brexit has been a Tory prolapse many decades in the making, compounded by the weakest Labour leadership this human has yet to witness. We could get Doris from the local residential nursing home in her late 90's into the gaff & there'd be more vision, energy & class than this current collective bag of spunk.

 

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im voting snp again tommorow. considered green and libdem, but i still think they are the nicest actual human beings in british politics. 

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best thing about brexit so far: the headline '' breaking news: nigel farage held hostage on brexit party bus by milkshake wielding protesters'

 

 

anyway fuck england. the fact that this actual piece of human shit is looking to scoop a majority in the european elections is a the nail in the coffin of my respect for my place of birth. i actually feel like worldwide, it must be quite rare to actually be disgusted by your own nation. most people seem reasonably proud of their culture. 

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17 hours ago, Nebraska said:

who is more brexisn't?

 

 

So many questions. 

Why is she wearing a microphone that seems to be hooked up to a speaker?

is this an outtake from The Thick of It? 

Is the MP an idiot, a man with some form of mental handicap, or both?

this is one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen. Thanks brexit!

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On 5/13/2019 at 9:09 AM, pcock said:

nigel farage is now actually a potential candidate for the leader of this country. britain is such a disgusting place. 

i almost believe he could have been smart enough to see this as a potential outcome to the formation of UKIP. playing the long game. 

I doubt it, he's just an opportunistic little toad. He's in this position due to the infighting and incompetence of the current government. Swine one and all.

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lol at that twitter clip. woman is a right loony.

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1 hour ago, MadameChaos said:

I doubt it, he's just an opportunistic little toad. He's in this position due to the infighting and incompetence of the current government. Swine one and all.


Well exactly, started up a limited company (The Brexit Party Ltd) to cover his head if it all goes tits up.  If the government or their opposition were doing a decent job, we wouldn't even be having these elections and Nigel would still be sitting under a rock having lost his position as an MEP.... 😉

 

 

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LOL

An online petition to get Farage out of the country/UK-politics would be .... interesting 😉 

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if my facebook feed is anything to go by, its looking like 10s of thousands of EU citizens were denied the ability to vote.

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