goDel Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 You're probably right. But this is politics. Yesterday's "No, not over my dead body!" is tomorrow's "Yeah, let's do that! It's the only viable option!". Whatever Boris says, it hasn't much to do with his personal opinion. It's all about political power. Behind the scenes, he has to deal with a sizeable amount of hard Brexiteers. My take, in order to be able to flip his position, he has to show the Brexiteers he was on their side and did everything necessary, but lost because of some reality. The Brexiteers will need to accept a new reality at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 hours ago, BCM said: unfortunately runaway global warming due to melting of the permafrost and release of massive amounts of methane is extremely likely to happen. it will be catastrophic and humanity will be lucky to survive in even a basic way. this is why i'm not having kids. truly... we're fucked. totally fucked. and not in a thousand years or some shit, in less than 100, probably less than 50. we all know it. deep down we all know it. it is crazy how the most likely scenario is really fuckin cool and out of an apocalyptic sci-fi film. god i hope i die before that happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, goDel said: You're probably right. But this is politics. Yesterday's "No, not over my dead body!" is tomorrow's "Yeah, let's do that! It's the only viable option!". Whatever Boris says, it hasn't much to do with his personal opinion. It's all about political power. Behind the scenes, he has to deal with a sizeable amount of hard Brexiteers. My take, in order to be able to flip his position, he has to show the Brexiteers he was on their side and did everything necessary, but lost because of some reality. The Brexiteers will need to accept a new reality at some point. Well Theresa May went down in flames trying to push that broken car down the road... so you might be right - Boris might be playing this to "save the UK" at the last minute by convincing the conservative party that Brexit isn't good for England (ya think?)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Mr. UK will save the bloody nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 That picture does an amazing job of accurately summing up modern politics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1000 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Joyrex said: Well Theresa May went down in flames trying to push that broken car down the road... so you might be right - Boris might be playing this to "save the UK" at the last minute by convincing the conservative party that Brexit isn't good for England (ya think?)... Luckily the voters made the decision for Brexit to pass, and it's finally going ahead now.. few hiccups on the way mind you (T-May) Congrats to Mr. Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marf Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I have zero knowledge how a prime minister is elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, BCM said: The Britishness in that shrug... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, marf said: I have zero knowledge how a prime minister is elected. In Boris' case he wasn't elected by the people per se - he was elected along party lines, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Joyrex said: In Boris' case he wasn't elected by the people per se - he was elected along party lines, no? i think if there's a no confidence thing and the PM can't get it done the PM resigns and the party in power picks the new PM right? seems crazy but maybe it's better than being stuck w/someone for 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Joyrex said: In Boris' case he wasn't elected by the people per se - he was elected along party lines, no? he was elected PM by around 0.001% of the population 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, ignatius said: i think if there's a no confidence thing and the PM can't get it done the PM resigns and the party in power picks the new PM right? seems crazy but maybe it's better than being stuck w/someone for 4 years. No, if there's a vote of no confidence in the government, then the leader of the opposition is given a chance to form a government, or anyone else after that if they can't. they have two weeks to sort it out so that a majority of parliament will vote for someone, if not then there's a general election. so in theory there could be a temporary government of national unity type deal, e.g. with the sole purpose of legislating for a new referendum, after which there'd be a GE. all quite unlikely, but it's one of the few remaining ways out of this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zlemflolia Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, caze said: he was elected PM by around 0.001% of the population banana republic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Well, you'll get a real proper Brexit now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, ignatius said: Sadly, I prefer Boris vs Trump in this context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 12/4/2018 at 9:13 PM, BCM said: Yeah so I think it's safe to assume we ain't leaving. ECJ judge saying we can unilaterally call it off. May's government in contempt of parliament so now has to publish the full legal advice on the whole thing, which will undoubtedly advise that leaving is a very bad idea indeed. Either they'll just call the whole thing off or it'll be a second referendum and everyone will vote to remain because we're so thoroughly sick of the whole charade. Terribly sorry for all the bother Europe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 This is the best line I've read on this whole shit-show in a while: Quote This takes the total allocation of spending on no-deal preparation this year alone up to £6.3bn, in the political equivalent of hitting yourself in the face and paying someone to patch up your broken nose. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/01/deep-poverty-boris-johnson-tories-families 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted August 2, 2019 Author Share Posted August 2, 2019 indeed. much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1000 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 oct 31st lads it's happening. don't be alarmed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Yeah good one shit head. How's the ban working out for ya? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Good ol' Boris temporarily suspending the parliament to further his no-deal Brexit.. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632 TBH, I'm learning quite a lot about UK politics following this shitshow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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