worms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Ukip won 4 million votes at its peak. Even if a 2nd referendum happens, Nigel Farage is planning on making a Brexit Party that in theory could win 4 million votes at least at a general election. 2nd ref irrelevant. Brexit is unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) people still are not properly informed though. same as america, a huge amount of people still think that newspapers have some kind of responsibility to tell the truth, instead of pushing whatever political agenda the owner of the newspaper needs to continue maximising personal profits. Edited March 13, 2019 by messiaen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 the only possible beneficial resolution to this is still scottish independence. england fucking sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 But scotland voted to stay in the union :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 But scotland voted to stay in the union :/ Yeah but the Scots who voted to leave want a second referendum so there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) There's going to be a shit load of underground economy. If shitloads of people get arrested and they can't deal with the overflow. Maybe they'll rethink it Edited March 13, 2019 by marf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) But scotland voted to stay in the union :/ the main contention is that it was a massive, persuasive part of unionist campaigning that to vote for remaining in the UK would keep scotland in the EU, which is a pretty big deal for scotland because they export a higher percentage of goods there than england. scotland voted to remain in the EU with the highest majority of any part of britain. the english goverment treats scotland with such a vicious contempt its still surprising to me that indepence lost the first time round. the mandate was established afterwards aswell by scotland once again voting the SNP in so overwhelmingly that they became the 3rd largest westminster party even though scotland has 5million citizens compared to englands 60 odd million. Edited March 13, 2019 by messiaen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 There’s no rule saying we can’t have a referendum every year. I guess people feel helpless and powerless after losing a referendum. To me it makes sense to wait a whole generation before asking again. Every 30-40 years sits about right. Has anyone seen this? Video about the ref we had in the 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 But scotland voted to stay in the union :/ the main contention is that it was a massive, persuasive part of unionist campaigning that to vote for remaining in the UK would keep scotland in the EU, which is a pretty big deal for scotland because they export a higher percentage of goods there than england. scotland voted to remain in the EU with the highest majority of any part of britain. the english goverment treats scotland with such a vicious contempt its still surprising to me that indepence lost the first time round. the mandate was established afterwards aswell by scotland once again voting the SNP in so overwhelmingly that they became the 3rd largest westminster party even though scotland has 5million citizens compared to englands 60 odd million. Yeah I wonder if Snp has reached its peak or will they continue nagging for their own 2nd ref. Depends on corbyn’s skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The irony. Hey I get irony. I know Im a yank. Is these hard brexit people who are nationalists might actually break apart Britain in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 i think the SNP will hold another referendum in the case of a no deal brexit because it will be catastrophically bad for scotland, and not a single area of scotland voted for it. if the whole thing gets extended and brushed under the rug, probably not. it remains to be seen wether the UK will react in the same way as with the catalonians and just arrest everyone involved. again, potential riot material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 If scotland went catalonia the shit would really hit the fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 the situation is quite different because scotland is actually a full, separate country embroiled in political union, as opposed to catalonia which is officialy part of spain, but still, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 If scotland went catalonia the shit would really hit the fan But who's gonna pay to rebuild the wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Im more worried about probrexit yellow vests turning to terror. We already had an mp get shot and stabbed to death (jo cox) and a lonely nutter drove his car into a mosque. Chances of civil disorder are quite high if there's a 2nd ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) only hope is new markets open up, which is very possible. Edited March 13, 2019 by marf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 If scotland went catalonia the shit would really hit the fan But who's gonna pay to rebuild the wall Jon Snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) Edit: Yes, we have these kinds of people also.. Edited March 13, 2019 by mokz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Deuteronomy is the most brutal book in the whole bible. Genocide etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Had no idea the Bible had teachings on Brexit and the EU ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 We've got them over here too, except over here they all wear red hats and worship this mentally incapacitated orange person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Bcm called it. They Just voted down the no deal aswell as the deal. No way this is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Vote was non binding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Jacob rees mogg gets confirmation from speaker bercow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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