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7 hours ago, Zeffolia said:

your queen's a worthless old hag for not saving her country from these right wing retards

clearly shes a useless fuck and all her money can be confiscated and used to pay for roads immediately and the royal bloodline can be officially called quits, they're nothing more than plebs now, and no more TV time for their babies

LOL alright, chill out sweetheart

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Unlikely that De pfeffel's plan is going to work... massively pissing off the majority of the HOC before a completely inevitable confidence vote?

Whether corbz chooses before or after the suspension is anyone's guess.

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7 hours ago, Zeffolia said:

it's not idiots it's rich people don't forget it

Which ones? The so-called business people aren't happy with this. Not at all. The rich will be poorer because of a no deal brexit.

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4 hours ago, Amen Warrior said:

Unlikely that De pfeffel's plan is going to work... massively pissing off the majority of the HOC before a completely inevitable confidence vote?

Whether corbz chooses before or after the suspension is anyone's guess.

At least he can put maximal pressure on EU this way. Or rather, make people (mainly brexiteers) believe he did all he could.

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My mp (justine greening) announced that she won't be standing at next GE, whenever that will be, and it's a marginalish seat. For the first time ever my vote might actually count

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it's expected, there are people long and short on everything

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Rees-Mogg is effectively shorting Sterling via his investment firm, so this meme must be quite pleasing for him too:

 

Jacob Rees-Mogg sitting on the pound exchange rate

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Damn, those Rees-Mogg curves... 😉

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im glad us americans have someone else to laugh at from time to time. it's depressing being self-reflexively disgusted 24/7

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Brexit has become a meme, similar to waiting for Half Life 3 or a new BOC album.

Except its not funny 😞

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Don't think calling this test of British democracy/government a meme is fair. Although I understand the implied frustration. But while you are "waiting" for the nonsense to end, some serious stuff is taking place in UK government. THe no-deal thing coming through the lords (i'm not an expert on UK politics!!!) seems like a sign of a functioning government, at least. You know, having debates and working out sensible compromises to achieve mutually agreed goals. So that looks good to me. And it should, because Johnson & Co are doing their best to drive the UK into a hole. The others are supposed to do their best to keep it out. It looks like it might actually be happening this time around. This time it's less about taking different political positions in order to look good for the coming elections. The political agenda has gotten fairly straightforward: don't drive the UK into the black hole of a no deal brexit. Even Corbyn seems to get off his election horse. Seems like a first to me.

Could be wishful thinking from my side, of course.

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^
yeah, agree things are looking more hopeful...

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2 hours ago, goDel said:

Even Corbyn seems to get off his election horse

Corbyn was still giving speeches saying the opposite of what everyone else in the party is saying, who then had to come out and correct him afterwards. They seem to have got him muzzled now, though their stance on when they want an election still isn't fully nailed down.

 

I was surprised they managed to get the anti no deal bill passed, the only odd thing about it was that the government managed to get a weird amendment tacked on to it (because they sent no tellers to count the Nos for the vote, the amendment passed by default, maybe they thought it would prevent the bill from passing at all, but MPs didn't seem bothered with it). That amendment means if Boris doesn't manage to come up with a deal with the EU, or it's not voted in by parliament, and if then a no-deal is voted against, an article 50 extension is granted, but only to resubmit a slightly amended version of May's withdrawal agreement to the EU (as agreed by the cross party talks after it was last voted down). Not sure if I'm reading it correctly, but it seems to rule out other forms of extension, e.g. to hold a new referendum. Though I suppose if that failed (either the EU or parliament rejected the amended May deal), then there could be a vote on a new bill for another extension.

It does seem like what was increasingly looking like a no deal exit is a lot less likely now, but the bill still needs to be brought into law, and Johnson has to be prevented from calling an election before it can be implemented.

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lulz

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tory solutions for tory problems

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Richard Newby, an opposition member in the upper chamber, said the Conservative Party dropped its opposition after realizing it was “looking stupid.”

“There was a realization by those on the other side that this was more than usually stupid, and they were looking stupid, and we needed to find a way forward,” he told BBC Radio.

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Scottish court positions prorogued parliament as disingenuous.

Instead of reforming mental health funding and ring fencing it, attacking river & environmental pollution & education etc, we’re mired into this post colonialist asset stripping prolapse.

Britain has had this coming for generations, for global crimes so vast to be borderline uncountable, for general complacency & for the weakest batch of infighting parliamentarians this human has ever witnessed.

The treatment & disregard of Eire, the Good Friday equipment, planning around EU nationals entering the north of Eire over the next few years....happy days

 

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 ^ Agreed.

The vast majority of the politicians have failed us, for various reasons.

Left just as bad as the right.

Rabid pro-labour folks on here will be spitting feathers at that, but take a step back and look at the party you support from a neutral point of view.  Absolute shambles, same as the Tory's.

 

 

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if this thing had a personified form, it'd be summat like

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the whole thing is a benchmark reason for staying away from the news for as much as is practically possible, but, it, draws, you, in, like, grotesque, dolls

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 ^ Agreed.
The vast majority of the politicians have failed us, for various reasons.
Left just as bad as the right.
Rabid pro-labour folks on here will be spitting feathers at that, but take a step back and look at the party you support from a neutral point of view.  Absolute shambles, same as the Tory's.
 
 
Enlightened centrism aside, maybe take a step back yourself and ask one question... Do you think the UK would be in a similar mess if Labour had been in power the last few years?

I'm not 'rabidly pro-Labour' as such but I do despair of the 'everyone's the same' mentality, it's also part of what led to Trump over in the States.

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30 minutes ago, danshoebridge said:

Enlightened centrism aside, maybe take a step back yourself and ask one question... Do you think the UK would be in a similar mess if Labour had been in power the last few years?

I'm not 'rabidly pro-Labour' as such but I do despair of the 'everyone's the same' mentality, it's also part of what led to Trump over in the States.

I'd suggest starting with getting rid of the first-past-the-post voting and start forming coalition governments. Now the UK politics is just a constant war between two big parties instead of multiple political parties trying to find some sort of compromise or consensus.

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