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Covid has come at the right time for our administration, many have taken their eyes off the Brexit ball and its thundering along in the background without us realising (myself included. So many other things to worry about!)

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We've got little over a month to avoid a no deal brexit, it's not looking good, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised by an 11th hour capitulation from the Brits. Trying to recover from the covid recession on top of a no deal scenario would be a total fucking nightmare.

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19 hours ago, whosebrian said:

The beauty beneath Brexit’s bedwetting

Irvine Welsh

This article is more than four years old.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/06/beauty-beneath-brexit-bedwetting-leave-vote-diversity-genuine-change

found this really interesting to read. as an american it shed some new light it all. seems his take on it 4 years ago was pretty accurate ay?

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8 hours ago, dr lopez said:

just got my british passport!! can't wait to come over and be miserable!! Im one of you lot now

 

 

Congrats I guess, man! Make sure you give me a shout if you're in London at all.

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Just now, milkface said:

fair enough, hope u settle in alright 🙂 you moving to london?

im not moving (yet), just getting the passport to have it in the event that the usa collapses (quite possible) also hoping it can ease visa issues with getting work in continental europe 

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2 minutes ago, dr lopez said:

im not moving (yet), just getting the passport to have it in the event that the usa collapses (quite possible) also hoping it can ease visa issues with getting work in continental europe 

yeah that sounds like a sensible thing to have done. might get a french identity card since i have dual nationality

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My wife has an Irish passport so we have options! But our current plan is to move down to Devon at the start of next year (plague pending).  Oxfordshire has definitely lost its charm.  Everything is so expensive, busy and falling apart.  They are building a shed ton of new homes without any thought on infrastructure or the environment.  The council is a disgrace.

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With the Brexit transition period finally over on Dec 31st, Trump possibly refusing to give up the presidency and the first/second/third wave of the pandemic making rounds, it looks like a setting for a one hell of a winter.

 

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I still don't understand what the problem is. Norway and Switzerland have acceptable deals with the EU that work perfectly fine. Makes no sense for the UK not to want the same. It's always surprising how irrational leadership elites act since you would expect them to be somewhat competent and leaving emotions out of it. In a way it's good for the EU to have one conservative cock blocker less, though

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1 hour ago, dingformung said:

I still don't understand what the problem is. Norway and Switzerland have acceptable deals with the EU that work perfectly fine. Makes no sense for the UK not to want the same. It's always surprising how irrational leadership elites act since you would expect them to be somewhat competent and leaving emotions out of it. In a way it's good for the EU to have one conservative cock blocker less, though

It requires a huge amount of work and being in a constant state of negotiation with the EU for those countries to maintain access. It's possible because Norway and Switzerland have adults in charge, but it's not easy. The Swiss had a referendum last year on restricting freedom of movement (proposed by right wing opposition and voted down strongly by the electorate). Had that passed they would have lost all access to the EU market.  It would have been catastrophic for a landlocked country surrounded by member states.

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This should be finally happening in 20 days. After years of negotiations let's get the deal done in 3 weeks. :facepalm:Any chance of delaying the Brexit more? No-deal Brexit should be illegal now or how the hell does that even work?

Boris Johnson says there is a "strong possibility" the UK will fail to strike a post-Brexit trade deal with the EU: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55266678

Brexit: EU sets out plans in case trade talks with UK fail: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55259144

Britons could be barred from EU entry on 1 January (due to both pandemic travel restrictions and brexit happening simultaneously) https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55256248

 

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4 hours ago, psn said:

It's beyond tragic.

Nope, it's tragic. In the original definition of the word:

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hamartia is commonly understood to refer to the protagonist's error or tragic flaw that leads to a chain of plot actions culminating in a reversal from felicity to disaster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamartia

 

/ grabs Ancient Greek popcorn

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It was inevitable that the negotiations would go down to the last minute.  Even without COVID this would have happened as the EU do not want us to leave with a favourable deal lest others wish to follow us.

Sure our leadership hasn't helped - but I don't see how a different party or leadership would have been able to do any better tbh.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Soloman Tump said:

It was inevitable that the negotiations would go down to the last minute.  Even without COVID this would have happened as the EU do not want us to leave with a favourable deal lest others wish to follow us.

Sure our leadership hasn't helped - but I don't see how a different party or leadership would have been able to do any better tbh.

 

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