zkom Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I used to eat cricket bread and protein bars back in Finland. Kind of nutty flavor but good. Also tried some fried worms in Thailand but that's kind of more just for the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 To the guy who keeps maintaining that one person giving up meat makes a concrete impact on meat production, lol fuck off. You clearly lack imagination on the sheer scale of meat production and also global food waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Surely though for every n person-years of vegetarianism/veganism there is an effect, and everyone's contributions are equally important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Wouldn't that be nice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I'd love to believe but atm I don't think the numbers of non-meat eaters are even close to high enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Surely though for every n person-years of vegetarianism/veganism there is an effect, and everyone's contributions are equally important.not if for every person going vegan there is one or more going carnivore/lchf edit: what spi said.. u wanna solve global problems u need global action, the individual action talk is kinda bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I'd love to believe but atm I don't think the numbers of non-meat eaters are even close to high enough Exactly. Even if they lead to a mild production surplus this could be compensated through cheaper prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Do you apply this to every facet of your life, I am just one person so if I change it will still do nothing? They now sell vegan sausage rolls in Greggs ffs. “My life amounts to no more than one drop in a limitless ocean. Yet what is any ocean, but a multitude of drops?” *please imagine a picture of a bearded man hugging a pig here. I can’t be arsed to google for one.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Do you apply this to every facet of your life, I am just one person so if I change it will still do nothing? They now sell vegan sausage rolls in Greggs ffs. “My life amounts to no more than one drop in a limitless ocean. Yet what is any ocean, but a multitude of drops?” *please imagine a picture of a bearded man hugging a pig here. I can’t be arsed to google for one.* who, me? of course not, im talking specifically about problems that require global action to solve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Humans being omnivores is not a global problem that needs solving. Single use plastics / climate change is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Do you apply this to every facet of your life, I am just one person so if I change it will still do nothing? They now sell vegan sausage rolls in Greggs ffs. “My life amounts to no more than one drop in a limitless ocean. Yet what is any ocean, but a multitude of drops?” *please imagine a picture of a bearded man hugging a pig here. I can’t be arsed to google for one.* who, me? of course not, im talking specifically about problems that require global action to solve Not just you, there’s a few in here. My comment was obviously a bit tongue in cheek but I kind of believe it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Humans being omnivores is not a global problem that needs solving. Single use plastics / climate change is. exactly, the root of the problem should b specified n then death to capitalism find a peaceful and viable solution to the problem that is effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Do you apply this to every facet of your life, I am just one person so if I change it will still do nothing? They now sell vegan sausage rolls in Greggs ffs. “My life amounts to no more than one drop in a limitless ocean. Yet what is any ocean, but a multitude of drops?” *please imagine a picture of a bearded man hugging a pig here. I can’t be arsed to google for one.* No, when it comes to a lot of other topics individual decisions make a huge difference, e.g. do I drive responsibly? If I don't there is a chance that someone gets killed. Am I violent? Do I help others? There are lots of areas in life where one decision out of the many decisions other humans make actually changes a thing. I'm not saying that veganism isn't noble, I just don't believe that even if much more people stopped eating meat one single male chicklet less would be shred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 What do you guys think the numbers of vegetarians and vegans are, actually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Wrong, I have met at least 8, so maybe double that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 What do you guys think the numbers of vegetarians and vegans are, actually? Quite a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Insects Organic or factory farmed? Great source of protein, presentation skills of dishes could do with some brushing up, but, grubs.......grubs You walk into yer local supermarket & there are cheap sacks of readytowhateverthefuckyoudowithinsectswhenyoucookwiththem. Do you A) run, run away, B) grab 2 large hessian sack's worth, or C) order a Matterhorn burger (aka a fuck off big one) w/fries to go from your local weird-beard burger gaff? Friend of mine works as a tech at a place that processes crickets. Tried some completely unseasoned ones and they were remarkably bland. Closet thing it reminded me of was the papery inside of pistachio shells. Once they start getting cheaper and more cost effective I can see them being a staple especially for snack sized portions i.e. like nuts, jerky, etc. Good description RE the taste, that's how I remember them as well. What do you mean by staple though? Insects are a bit of a staple at least in Africa and parts of Asia, do you mean hitting the mainstream? For whatever reason here in Canada you can already buy cricket flour and stuff at regular grocery stores, seems to be picking up here. Yeah I'm talking stateside, Europe, etc. The incentive to buy stuff like cricket chips isn't quite there in terms of cost. I'm a true omnivore here. When it comes to meat I will say I am def not picky. I think if people want to eat meat they should do their best to eat as much of the animal as possible. It's a big part of certain regional cuisines - Mexican and Tex-Mex for example, I love barbacoa, chorizo, menudo, etc. If I ever went super bucolic and lived in the country I'd be content with goat, chicken, and pork. Def have some freeganism tendencies, I'm like a human garbage disposal at home and at the office. If there's anything people in highly developed countries should strive to do it's not waste food. Some cities in the US are trying to reform laws to make it easier to give unused food to people. It's incredible how much is wasted and how much legal red tape prevents restaurants, hotels, etc. from simply giving it out. That's my 2 cents. There's no way I could do this so I applaud and respect the discipline of vegans, vegetarians and those who are far more strict about cruelty free, local, and free trade food sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaartenVC Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I'm not a vegetarian or vegan. We just consume less meat and other animal products like cow milk. I'd say we substitute more than half with soy, peas, beans, grains, vegetables, and especially green lentils and plant milk. I think it can be quite hard to completely give up on bacon and ground meat. Why does it have to taste so good? But we try the best we can / the best we are willing to go without. Flexitarian I think it's called. My sister is vegan. My brother and mother are vegetarian. My father is omnivore. We all used to be omnivore a decade back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Large scale agriculture was never meant to be, family never meant, by whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlemflolia Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 To the guy who keeps maintaining that one person giving up meat makes a concrete impact on meat production, lol fuck off. You clearly lack imagination on the sheer scale of meat production and also global food waste. So you think meat supply is not correlated to demand and that the market is extremely inefficient? You think there is no yearly fluctuation in the supply and demand of meat and that meat is somehow the one thing not beholden to market forces? Give me a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Re: insects and eating the whole animal. Couldn't agree more, I love that shit. Love me some kidneys, I've eaten fish eyes and brains etc. Still have sweetbreads on my list. Also would love a decent source of crickets. I noticed Tescos are doing packs of BBQ flavour crickets in the beer aisle now and I've tried them, but I'm not a fan of BBQ flavour anything and I want a big ole bag like popcorn, not a little novelty sachet. I think mainly my point is meat should be a treat, not the norm. Similar sentiment to tec talking about people sitting and eating 80 chicken wings as a snack I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 To the guy who keeps maintaining that one person giving up meat makes a concrete impact on meat production, lol fuck off. You clearly lack imagination on the sheer scale of meat production and also global food waste. So you think meat supply is not correlated to demand and that the market is extremely inefficient? You think there is no yearly fluctuation in the supply and demand of meat and that meat is somehow the one thing not beholden to market forces? Give me a break It is correlated to demand but the demand will not go down enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Don't basic market forces apply? Fairly elastic prices in the meat market, at least in Canada. Price of beef can fluctuate almost 50% over the course of a few weeks. Demand drops, price drops, more sold in response. I believe production is fairly static. http://aimis-simia.agr.gc.ca/rp/index-eng.cfm?action=gR&r=105&signature=19C0FF8143B4262BBE21BC183CB0394D&pdctc=&pTpl=1#wb-cont http://aimis-simia.agr.gc.ca/rp/index-eng.cfm?action=gR&r=111&signature=1E4EEE7FCACEBDB9795A618FFF89B47E&pdctc=&pTpl=1#wb-cont At least these reports show stable production. Hogs are especially stable: Federally inspected: 2015 - 20,332,334 2016 - 20,394,158 2017 - 20,728,785 2018 - 20,552,912 edit: worldwide all meat production is increasing of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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