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2 hours ago, cwmbrancity said:
On 4/23/2019 at 8:44 AM, MIXL2 said:

no I'm serious.. like there's not much left to say about papa peterson imo

 

 

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or I'm not liking the prospect of being the only defense on peterson on this thread again..

 

 

Blue pilled chill

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yah good ol jbp is p much done

long live jbp, thanks for killing watmm

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1 hour ago, ignatius said:

i hadn't heard about the benzo thing in russia until the other day when someone mentioned it. medically induced coma for 8 days. wtf. 

i'm calling bullshit on them not being able to find treatment in "the west".  benzo withdrawal is well understood and tapering off them is common practice. sudden withdrawal is not recommended i guess that's why they put him in a coma. i mean.. wtf. you're supposed to take 6 months to a year to taper. it's a horrible experience. he's going to be well fucked up for a while because the central nervous system goes fucking haywire. sudden withdrawal can cause psychosis and be fatal.  

 

keep in mind that jordan is someone who almost died from a little cider...i guess also being on some meat only diet doesn't help.

bottom line is he's a mess that should clean his room

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what's with all this resentment? wa no love for mistaa peterson?

mistaa peterson, come back! watmm needs yo!

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Jordan Peterson: Goes from self-help to analyzing Pinocchio archetypes in literature to saying that conservatives make the best businessmen and liberals make the best creative types, all in 10 minutes. He really likes to paint himself as the sensible centrist who can see how everything fits together from the middle, and you can too if you just clean your room and centralize your political leanings.

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Man I thought THE JBP thread got unlocked. Alas :catcry:

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36 minutes ago, hello spiral said:

Man I thought THE JBP thread got unlocked. Alas :catcry:

I now only read it once a month instead of every week

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His Russian medical trip makes absolutely no sense, and if it isn’t a cover story for something worse, then he’s just a fucking idiot. 

His daughter was interviewed on RT saying “The West” is so nefarious with the well established method of tapering people off benzos. So basically they’ve been pressured into participating in propaganda. They’re most likely useful idiots. 

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I tell ya--I do like a good ball busting and whatnot but having gotten stuck in the benzo trap myself once upon a time, I have great sympathy for his plight. He was dumb as fuck about it but it seems like the majority of the fathers in the world are fucking goobers when it comes to their daughters. It was definitely the case in my family.

It really goes to show you how almost no one is immune to how psychotropics can inflict harm--even among the vast benefits they simultaneously provide. He of all people with his diatribes of dragons and chaos should have known that that's exactly what benzos are. After all, he's in the biz. At any rate, everyone "wins" in a grim sense with this. Supporters get a critical eye opener into the reality of this drug class and detractors get to revel in his suffering. 

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He’s claiming his addiction was physical and not psychological. Weird flex but ok. He knows this is false but he has to look infallible to his cult. 

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I don't know if you can unequivocally say "false" on that "physical only" front. Benzodiazepines are arguably the most powerful modulators of GABA and its associated circuits. They do everything you wish booze would do with no hangover and pack their punch almost immediately. That's why rapid tolerance and the risk of abuse is such a problem.  

While getting off most drugs of abuse is painful, you won't die or even suffer any physiological damage. This is not true for benzos and alcohol. It's not a direct mechanism with these 2 but seizures and hypertensive emergencies secondary to withdrawal will absolutely kill and maim. He's likely never gonna be the same if what we are hearing is to be believed.

It's always a Game of Thrones when it comes to what is the worst psychological withdrawal but benzos are top contenders no doubt. They are good drugs for emergencies, short 7 day or less courses and perioperative use. If you get a taste for them and start abusing them (spoiler alert: huge chunks of people who are prescribed them will), you can very easily sustain lasting neurological damage. 

I really hope it's a learning opportunity for his cult because I don't think enough people know the realities of benzos. Every time I see how wildly celebrated they are in hip-hop and youth culture right now (barred out, xan'd out, L'il Xan, et. al), I cringe thinking about what a rollercoaster they are at risk for. 

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1 hour ago, Candiru said:

He’s claiming his addiction was physical and not psychological. Weird flex but ok. He knows this is false but he has to look infallible to his cult. 

I posted a youtube clip earlier in this thread of a physician assistant specialised in this matter, explaining and making sense of this story. If you want to know what you're talking about, you could check it. If you're not interested, feel free to continue as you are. Just know it's pretty sad to see people make these baseless statements. There's a time and place to call JP an idiot. This thing about benzos is not that place or time.

 

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Who needs facts when you can just wildly guess !

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Ok, that can be his 13th Rule For Life.

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17 hours ago, goDel said:

 

Thanks for posting this. Very interesting.

Not because of the contents themselves but because it exists. Normally qualified   medical practitioners are pretty strict about not going around posting half hour long talks about the conditions of patients they haven’t examined personally.

(note, btw, I absolutely detest Peterson specifically and the alt right in general)

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@xxx re-last post. Well said. They’re dolled out like sweets here & the illicit market is even worse. Scotland seems to have it up to the eyeballs. Massive correlation/causation with onset of dementia. My Ma was an NHS care inspector for years & routinely had to taper entire units off ridiculous benzo abuse levels.

My experience with these compounds in the US was an eye opener. They were almost traded openly between friends, a few Xanax for a few *insert other generic benzos/opiates. No big deal. Worked hard all week? Smash a few of these Friday night. Relax. The Smithsonian was a hotbed too. It seemed completely normalised. 

One of the longest serving devotees to heroin I know is a GP ffs, works extremely long hours & uses Friday/Saturday. Still a habit, clinicians aren’t immune from life pressures but it surprised me that Peterson has gone to Russia when he prob has the pick of pvt North American addiction support systems at hand. 

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1 hour ago, goDel said:

There's a time and place to call JP an idiot. This thing about benzos is not that place or time.

he’s a cheap huckster whose name is only spoken because of his shilling pseudo-philosophy self help bullshit for profit and his own ego. fuck him, he deserves no respect. he made himself a public figure for his own gain, he’s a fucking Kardashian. fuck him into the dirt.

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Just read the old thread.

It's beautiful

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