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1 hour ago, auxien said:

why

i generally like Bernie. would rather him than half the others, and certainly would rather him than Trump

^i'd still rather Warren tho.

that said, this shit definitely still aint over. Bernie's definitely in a better position after tonight but when you're running in the Dem primary and your two most powerful supporters are Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump, well, gotta start looking sideways at some things. not sure most people are smart enough for that tbh

Sometimes when you post I can't tell whether you're serious.  I'm starting to think you're serious.  Jesus.

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22 minutes ago, Brisbot said:

The media don't user the Bernie Bros thing all that much anymore. However they do still insinuate that toxic men make up a massive chunk of his party:

 

It's hard to believe you when you say this. The only positive thing I've seen you say about Bernie is that he has a good shot at winning and that you like him. But when talking about the actual subject I haven't seen you say anything good about him so I can't blame dr lopez for thinking that at all. The only reason I know you like him is because you have said as much, but I can't think of any other reason. However if you never said that you like him, I'd have plenty of reasons to assume you dislike him.

btw I tend to not read long posts that don't pertain to me. And don't take it the wrong way, even though we disagree politically it's not a big deal. Even the people most like me politcally will disagree with me on 1 in 5 issues (guesstimate)

Warren and Bernie are 90-95% the same on issues. probably the closest to each other of any two of the Dem candidates. if you like one, you like the other (whether or not many will admit it). i've made plenty clear that i prefer Warren, so to me it's pretty obvious 'why' i like Bernie: it's the issues. 

what i don't like is a lot of the stuff around Bernie, including even his own personal attitude and approach. i don't like many of his decisions regarding running, his campaign's messaging, his own personal ego crowding out his reason at various points, lots of other stuff....but i also see it's pretty clear that he would stick very closely to his beliefs and values and politics and hold true to them as much as any president could be expected to, and since i agree with most of those values and politics i'd prefer him as president to others. it's sort of a 'i don't like him but i like what he would do' thing.

no issues disagreeing with anyone here personally. i'll disagree all day and be totally cool with anyone basically, it's just how you (the general you, not the Brisbot-specific you) go about acceptance of facts and reality in regards to the things you're basing your opinions on that bothers me. 

28 minutes ago, Brisbot said:

btw talking about political leanings, not that he is doing well with the vote which you have stated as such a number of times. What would you describe yourself as politically? 

i don't even know tbh. independent i guess, in my state i'm technically listed as 'no party' which makes more sense to me. i'll go with whatever party/candidate seems best. i like the idea of political parties in general but without a diversity of them available, settling for basically one of three or four (or, realistically, just two) doesn't jibe with me really. so until there's some more options, i'll abstain from participating in the party system, i guess? never given it too much thought really.

i'm definitely liberal on lots of stuff and generally agree with Democrats on many things but i won't really claim them as their actions very often do not sync up with their words. and i don't just mean they had to hedge on some stuff as part of a compromise, just that they're straight up lying 50% of the time and that's really only slightly better than lying 75% of the time like the Republicans.

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23 minutes ago, auxien said:

if you're being a fucking aggressive cunt online i don't really care if you're a NeoNazi, a Berniebro, a Warren-stan, a member of PETA, a pathetic incel, or whatever, you're a fucking cunt online. 99% of all of those aggressive online cunts are meek pussies when not behind their keyboards so i honestly can't much make a distinction until they're offline. 

pretty agressive post there buster

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All this rhetoric is superfluous because the Now Trump Is President thread has another 4 years in it yet 

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3 minutes ago, Zeffolia said:

Sometimes when you post I can't tell whether you're serious.  I'm starting to think you're serious.  Jesus.

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2 minutes ago, Zeffolia said:

pretty agressive post there buster

glad that irony wasn't lost

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27 minutes ago, ignatius said:

it's time for some memes. 

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17 Best Elizabeth Warren Memes - MemeVilla

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(Warren memes are not good lol sorry)

 

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the  Bran one is pretty good. 

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Bran? Because of the similarities the 2020 elections have with the 8th season of Game Of Thrones, I guess

 

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11 minutes ago, goDel said:

Bran? Because of the similarities the 2020 elections have with the 8th season of Game Of Thrones, I guess

 

don't  remind us of those final seasons. 

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23 minutes ago, goDel said:

Bran? Because of the similarities the 2020 elections have with the 8th season of Game Of Thrones, I guess

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Here's Beau again, scoring some good points on the Bernie-russia issue. Or rather, doing something which you'd expect the media would do: making sense

 

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2 hours ago, goDel said:

Here's Beau again, scoring some good points on the Bernie-russia issue. Or rather, doing something which you'd expect the media would do: making sense

 

very sensible, imagine someone on mainstream media saying this

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^i like this guy, i've met a couple dudes like him over the years. 

i think he's partly/mostly correct, but i would argue (without little-to-no basis in fact, mind you) that he's underestimating the reasons that the Russian intelligence operations are choosing to bolster Bernie/Trump. the foreign policy stuff is certainly a large part of that calculus, but i assume that they're also trying to sow division in any way shape or form here in the States. Trump and Bernie are the two most 'extreme' viable candidates, for domestic issues as well as foreign policy issues, so no matter the outcome of either's foreign policy decisions (which are almost always going to be partly-to-heavily tempered by military concerns, mind you, despite either one's stated goals). and ultimately a less stable America domestically is likely a good thing for Russia.

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Part of it is that Russia wants to sell their oil and gas to the Europeans but the US sanctions European companies for trade with Russia. The reason is this dirty environmentally irresponsible fracking gas the US wants to force their allies to buy. Maybe the Russians would prefer if the Americans wouldn't interfere in their trade with Europe. I guess a progressive US president would probably make it more likely that some of the sanctions, especially those that aren't applied to Russia directly but to US allies, will be lessened which would help Russia. Keyword: Nord Stream 2

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On 2/11/2020 at 7:53 PM, goDel said:

On a tangent, I'm becoming a fan of this guy here. A "looks like and sounds like white trash, but got a mind of his own"-guy. He used to be a journalist covering international affairs, btw. In case you were wondering. He's no slouch. 😉

I think he's wearing the hillbilly style in a kind of hipster way, smells like middle class to me, not "white trash" (pretty evil term if u ask me). I binged a fair share of his videos after you recommended him. Not a stupid guy but somehow he discusses political topics in a kind of naive/American way. Not as insightful as I hoped it to be

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He’s not wrong, but he takes a long time to get to his rather shallow and obvious points.

I suspect the trick is he’s play-acting a hillbilly in the hope that this will attract hillbilly viewers so he can persuade them to vote for someone besides Trump.

Since hillbillies aren’t stupid, this plan will fail.

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He’s not a hillbilly. He’s probably middle management for a company that sells farm equipment. 

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Yeah, probably right. We Europeans often have the arrogance of thinking we understand what Americans are on about. But we don't. Americans are an enigma. I hope they won't shoot me

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All the candidates are shit imo, sorry lads but I think Trump has his second term in the bag

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1 minute ago, thumbass said:

All the candidates are shit imo, sorry lads but I think Trump has his second term in the bag

I think it's pretty normal that presidents get a second term. It's more the rule than the exception. Still, I think that when it comes to Trump, laws of nature are reversed. I can very well imagine that another candidate wins. The fact alone that the unpopular Hilary Clinton could win the popular vote against Trump shows that a more popular candidate can easily win against Trump. I just hope that the DNC has some integrity

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Spoiler:

It doesn't

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