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i mean it was pretty obvious he wasn't going to get the nom anyway

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yeah in terms of delegate math, his chances have already been slim-to-impossible after the last few primaries.

on a forward note, im not looking forward to what will sure to be an increasingly ugly campaign, but i also implore fellow bernie supporters to not sit it out or vote for the wrong candidate.. this shitty system is what we're stuck with for the time being, and i implore you to do what is needed to get the cheeto out. Even if his policies may not affect you directly, they do for many others, and if he gets to keep going, his racist policies and authoritarian powergrabs will be much further entrenched in our politics

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2 hours ago, Nebraska said:

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pre 2016 is my guess

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52 minutes ago, timbre monke said:

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8 years recent

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11 hours ago, auxien said:

there's plenty of Bernie supporters that aren't assholes. and Bernie's going to be stumping for Biden soon enough i promise. will he be a turncoat on his own brand then?

but already today i've seen more than a few 'well i'm just not going to vote this time i guess, hope it all burns down, never liked the Democrats anyway fuck'em'

bernie will prove to be a lib in the end and support biden the fucking rapist

not as much of a lib as dems tho.  a hero of modern first world socialism for his movement building

>electoralism

lmao

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9 hours ago, ignatius said:

watched this frontline episode last night about china and xian jiang area and surveillance state etc. pretty fucking crazy, sad, scary.. there's a line in there that apparently trump told Xi to "use the tools of dictatorship to crush the fundamentalist muslims" or something like that.. in reference to the Uyghurs. trump so wishes he was a dictator. that's his endgame.. how to be a dictator.  it's a must watch. crazy fucked up shit. next president is going to have to deal w/keeping china's tech from infiltrating USA etc. seems to happening now somewhat under trump and previously obama. but it's gonna get weird and dystopian cyber punk in the next decade. 

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/china-undercover/

 

also... 

https://politics.theonion.com/i-congratulate-joe-biden-a-very-decent-man-says-ber-1842759492?fbclid=IwAR2KSeMLVPAcfam3WTYKc2f-HoOMwpAEJz3vLUuy-MSgAIbLGiI79FkMcrk

 

stop using tech

it is NEVER secure

https://www.archive.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/712.fall02/papers/p761-thompson.pdf

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I really should have put money on Biden winning. 

 

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3 hours ago, Candiru said:

I really should have put money on Biden winning. 

 

oh for sure, the odds at one stage must have been 20:1 at least. there were a nice few weeks where it looked like he was totally done for.

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8 hours ago, Zeffolia said:

i'm aware of that. the china frontline episode is about a total surveillance state tested/proof of concept on the Uyghurs in Xiang Jiang region of china. barcodes on front doors of dwellings, checking papers everywhere, cameras everywhere, forcing them to download apps so whenever a cop stops them they can connect their phone to a device that copies all their data and sends it to a database for scanning etc. it's not about the tech not being secure it's about them telling the segment of population that the tech is not working for you.. it's working for the state and you will cubmit to our checks or you will be detained.. and most likely you will be detained anyways because the state is going to erase your culture. 

it's off topic anyways.. but is worth watching imo to see what's happening. 

alos, this.. 

 

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3 hours ago, ignatius said:

alos, this.. 

 

That tweet is so on point that even Noam Chomsky agrees with her:

 

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But... she thought about someone's facebook post every day for 3 and a half years?  

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See the source image

i've been thinking about this Facebook post every day for more than 3 and a half years

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Ah fuck, now I am too.

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That Deanna chick nailed it though. I think the disappointed Bernie voters who think he was our only chance are dumber and more brainwashed than Trump voters at this point. 

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3 minutes ago, Candiru said:

That Deanna chick nailed it though. I think the disappointed Bernie voters who think he was our only chance are dumber and more brainwashed than Trump voters at this point. 

lol, no

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1 minute ago, darreichungsform said:

lol, no

They saw the same shit over the past three years that everyone else did, and still learned nothing. 

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2 minutes ago, Candiru said:

They saw the same shit over the past three years that everyone else did, and still learned nothing. 

Yes, they are idiots but I think not on same level as Trump supporters which are either mental disability level dumb or evil

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4 hours ago, Candiru said:

That Deanna chick nailed it though. I think the disappointed Bernie voters who think he was our only chance are dumber and more brainwashed than Trump voters at this point. 

uhh... bernie is literally is the only true leftist running for office. fuck them for wanting someone who actually represents what they believe, right??

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But that was not what they are (and were) saying. He may indeed be the only option to represent what they believe (which is a strong overstatement, if you ask me. He's not that different. Or rather, having him or Biden in the white house wouldn't have made a big difference in terms of leftist policy outcomes), but the argument was about beating Trump.

Was the "Sanders is the only option to win against Trump" empty rhetoric? Is that what you're saying? Just a ploy to get people on board who weren't into Sanders for his policies?

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People are giving up on beating Trump just because Bernie lost, which is wack. 

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It is.

Some good analysis at 538. Also good at pointing out that some arguments made about Sanders being the only viable alternative to Trump (in terms of strategy. not ideology or anything like that!) might be pretty weak and poorly founded. (again, this his nothing to do with people supporting Sanders for his policies)

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/sanders-and-the-media-learned-the-wrong-lessons-from-trump-in-2016/

 

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i just think it's weird to get pissed at people for feeling that way. trump beat hilary, he could easily beat biden for the same reasons. bernie has the 'outsider' appeal that trump cruises by on. and yeah biden is a fake leftist, I'M SAYING IT

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