2020 US Election

[auxien]

also, speaking of rich old bastards muddying up the race: fuck Bloomberg in stupid old fucking face. this made me laugh tho

https://politics.theonion.com/bloomberg-hires-thousands-of-canvassers-to-stop-black-m-1841701859

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Bloomberg Hires Thousands Of Canvassers To Stop Black Men On Street And Force Them To Hear Campaign Pitch

Citing polling data that suggested the former mayor was tracking poorly among 18- to 25-year-old African Americans, Michael Bloomberg’s presidential campaign hired thousands of canvassers Friday to stop black men on the street and force them to hear his campaign pitch. “We want to make sure black voters can’t walk down the street without hearing Mike’s message loud and clear,” said campaign spokesperson Julie Wood, clarifying that canvassers have received training on the proper tactics for stopping black men and throwing them onto the ground while delivering Bloomberg’s talking points.

 

[Silent Member]

lol

[dingformung]

What is the reason this shit face has a small but real chance of getting president of the United Imperialistic Forces of the Federal Union of Free and Democratic States of the Republic of the United States of America (UIotFUoFaDSotRotUSoA)?

[auxien]

45 minutes ago, darreichungsform said:

What is the reason this shit face has a small but real chance of getting president of the United Imperialistic Forces of the Federal Union of Free and Democratic States of the Republic of the United States of America (UIotFUoFaDSotRotUSoA)?

from what little i've considered about it, two reasons: he has lots of fucking money, and he is not Bernie Sanders.

[ignatius]

apparently bloomberg is considering hillary clinton as a running mate. 

ugh. that'll get all those fucken boomers wet in the panties for that ticket. 

[auxien]

18 minutes ago, ignatius said:

apparently bloomberg is considering hillary clinton as a running mate. 

ugh. that'll get all those fucken boomers wet in the panties for that ticket. 

Bloomberg is playing the media like a fiddle, just like Trump. don't fall for it.

 

[Nebraska]

one thing i like about bloomberg is his trump attack ads. he's almost like the democratic trump, right down to his self-promotion

 

[Nebraska]

 

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[Nebraska]

19 hours ago, Nebraska said:

one thing i like about bloomberg is his trump attack ads. he's almost like the democratic trump, right down to his self-promotion

his chief marketing officer gave him a book of his own quotes for his 48th birthday called: the portable bloomberg: the wit and wisdom of michael bloomberg

 even though she insisted that "nothing has been embellished or exaggerated. And yes, some things were too outrageous to include.” then current spokesperson has said “Mike simply did not say the things somebody wrote in this gag gift, which has been circulating for 30 years and has been quoted in every previous election Mike has been in.”

my favorite bloomberg quote: make the customer think he's getting laid when he's getting fucked

also:

 

[Squee]

53 minutes ago, Nebraska said:

his chief marketing officer gave him a book of his own quotes for his 48th birthday called: the portable bloomberg: the wit and wisdom of michael bloomberg

 even though she insisted that "nothing has been embellished or exaggerated. And yes, some things were too outrageous to include.” then current spokesperson has said “Mike simply did not say the things somebody wrote in this gag gift, which has been circulating for 30 years and has been quoted in every previous election Mike has been in.”

my favorite bloomberg quote: make the customer think he's getting laid when he's getting fucked

This one is good as well:
 

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Around July 1993 at the financial data company he founded, Bloomberg allegedly browbeat a saleswoman in front of other employees. He’d just heard that the woman was having trouble finding a nanny, according to the lawsuit.

“It’s a fucking baby! All it does is eat and shit! It doesn’t know the difference between you and anyone else! All you need is some Black, who doesn’t even have to speak English, to rescue it from a burning building!” Bloomberg allegedly shouted.

 

[Brisbot]

21 hours ago, ignatius said:

apparently bloomberg is considering hillary clinton as a running mate. 

ugh. that'll get all those fucken boomers wet in the panties for that ticket. 

those fucken bloomers

[Squee]

 

[Silent Member]

Juicy!

[Brisbot]

Politicians say the darndest things!

[Nebraska]

cnn is in a very weird position

TL;DR: bernie is winning, and he's never won so that's weird for him 

 

[zlemflolia]

25 minutes ago, Nebraska said:

cnn is in a very weird position

TL;DR: bernie is winning, and he's never won so that's weird for him 

 

fuck cnn

[Brisbot]

27 minutes ago, Nebraska said:

cnn is in a very weird position

TL;DR: bernie is winning, and he's never won so that's weird for him 

 

Interestingly enough he lost his first run for mayor by like 15% or so, then two years later he wins by about 6% (or so). Let's hope we get a repeat of that.

[Nebraska]

 

 

[ignatius]

[joshuatxuk]

This election is fucking exhausting. I look forward to the primaries being concluded, hopefully with Bernie nominated. As much my gut-reaction is to not vote for Bloomberg in the general, I'd still also have this other gut-wrenching feeling that I should vote for the biggest opposition candidate to Trump regardless of whoever it is. I often get too into my more hardline leftist echo chambers, but then I veer into the more moderate and centrist ones and it feels like the goddamn twilight zone. I will admit that many Bernie supporters are aggressive to the point of it backfiring (including the Chapo Trap House lead effort to abstain from the general if it's not Bernie) but at the same time for the DNC and HRC and Bloomberg supporters to tell Bernie's camp "to play nice" while shoving the same failed, polarizing, and flat out elitist horseshit strategy into the primaries in 2020 is infuriating, esepcially since it just weaponizes the GOP even more.

If I check into the pro-Trump side, I'm reminded that while liberals and leftists are knee-deep in political sea change there's this solid pro-Trump base not just of visceral right-wingers but also of truly naive and exploited populist voters. I was reading the comments of a local New Mexico news site I follow and the paper has started uncharacteristically cranking out a lot of  neutral but mostly positive sounding Trump stories and I felt like I was being gas-lighted. Most of the pro-Trump comments were by Latinos, Native Americans, etc. and they all echoed these vague rambling sentiments about how the Dems are driving them to Trump and Trump gives them hope, etc. Never any specific ideological reasons why they vote GOP or Trump. Not one substantive reason they oppose any liberal or progressive movement. Any valid criticism launched and they return a flurry of snopes-debunked psuedo-news copypastas that melt your fucking brain if you try to pick them apart.

I still subscribe to the theory that Bernie will gather more new voters than Bloomberg or any other centrist could swing over anti-Trump Republicans but that debate over what the better tactic is will remain a mystery, especially since I know a couple of people IRL who have said they'd vote for Bloomberg against Trump but not voter otherwise. Then I have to also remind myself the electoral college makes a lot of this null and void anywhere the margins aren't tight. Goddamn, I think I'll vote in the primary and just fucking go offline until late October. 

Edited February 18, 2020 by joshuatxuk

[goDel]

Good points.

I'd add that Bloomberg is -imo- wrongfully regarded as just another candidate running for office, though.

As far as I can tell, he's doing what he is doing with the sole purpose of keeping Trump from winning in 2020. To me, Bloomberg is closer to the Kochs than to an actual candidate. Eventhough-yes- he currently sells himself as a candidate running for office.

I consider this a tactic which enables him to directly attack Trump. Which is arguably more effective this way, as another candidate, rather than being simply the next billionaire anonymously pushing ads. Whether his tactic is also to influence the dem platform/ticket is another discussion. Given his current attacks on Sanders, I guess thats a yes. And if I'm right about Bloomberg not really being interested in winning the election as a candidate, his attacks on Sanders are more about moving him to a more electable position for the general election.

Whether or not you agree with this ( Sanders not suitable for general election), is a discussion in and of itself. And one which I would rather stay away from. I think the discussion should be more about the blatant influence money has on US politics. As Bloomberg is basically a billionaire trying to use his money to influence US politics. Even if you agree with the outcome ( eg.: he pushed millions into getting dems to win seats in the House in 2018), the method has little to do with democracy, imo.

It is yet another example of the uber rich using their money to move the political landscape in one direction, or another. The fact this is considered legal is just way beyond me. Bloomberg, like Trump, is another symptom of the sickness that US democracy is currently in. Even if I agree with Bloomberg on Trump, and possibly even Sanders, this just shouldn't be possible. If this is "freedom of speech", you can count me out. Buying elections is the opposite.

[Silent Member]

That's one way of looking at it, another is socialism bad money good

[dr lopez]

bloomberg is worse than trump. full stop. him winning would be a definitive signal that our country is fully and irreparably broken. I would vote for Trump.

[joshuatxuk]

3 hours ago, dr lopez said:

bloomberg is worse than trump. full stop. him winning would be a definitive signal that our country is fully and irreparably broken. I would vote for Trump.

vote 3rd party or abstain from the general, I know Bloomberg's entire entry and campaign is nightmare material but if he gets the nom don't fucking vote for the baron harkonnen of 21st century american fascism out of spite

11 hours ago, Gocab said:

That's one way of looking at it, another is socialism bad money good