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57 minutes ago, sweepstakes said:

Yeah fuck's sake, how is voting Trump out not cause for celebration? We cut out a large tumor. That's progress. 

I know that feeling!

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36 minutes ago, sweepstakes said:

Trump has a cult, that cult gave him a machine and momentum. The machine is starting to be dismantled, the momentum is slowing, and while some of the cult will remain, without the platform of POTUS, they will dwindle too.

What we just won is definitely just a battle, but we haven't lost the war yet.

 

 

33 minutes ago, sweepstakes said:

I truly believe this is the ugly death rattle of cultural hegemony. It cannot last forever and those angry voices will trail off. Maybe not in 2024, but maybe in our lifetimes. 

 'ugly death rattle of cultural hegemony' is a death metal band if ever i heard one

6 minutes ago, Rubin Farr said:

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divine intervention

 

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Qanon is cancelled. Hopefully all these backwards fucktards will loose their steam now that Trump is out.

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1 hour ago, Squee said:

It's not about that. It's never been about that. It's simply about Trump not being the president after Jan 20 2021.

But yeah, it's gonna be an uphill battle.

Just saw an interview with a female Trump supporter who says that this election has been a fraud. She journalists says, "but there's no evidence of that" and the supporter says, "Doesn't matter".

If you want to really feel doomed about 2024, watch some Morning Joe clips from the last couple days. 

 

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5 minutes ago, TubularCorporation said:

If you want to really feel doomed about 2024, watch some Morning Joe clips from the last couple days. 

 

What, like this? I legit just did a search and this was the first. Not particularly doom-inspiring, other than that the stupid fucking question was posed in the first place.

 

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Well done yanks! I don't expect this will truly slow down the reptilians, but the doomsday thermometer is cooling down and headlines will be saner. 

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regarding the MAGAists saying "doesn't matter" about there being no evidence of fraud.. evidence and reality have not mattered to these people since day one. that won't change. fuck them. we don't need to appease them or change their minds or prove anything to them. it'd be a waste of time and energy. the election will be discussed, the data will be collected and tabulated. Biden will always be the winner and recounts in any state will not change the vote count much in either direction. 

these people will never believe it and hopefully they sit bitterly stewing in their living rooms and yelling on street corners etc.

there will be some gatherings and maga type events and protests and probably now and then some group of "patriots" qanon sufferers will do something more and possibly violent. 

i think most people expect this.. if not now they will once their "trump is finally gone" honeymoon is over. 

trump is going to stay around and will be loud.. he could even rage out for 4 years and start campaigning to run in 2024. 

 

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30 minutes ago, Silent Member said:

Qanon is cancelled. Hopefully all these backwards fucktards will loose their steam now that Trump is out.

Those who fail IQ test will receive mandatory sterilization.

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14 minutes ago, sweepstakes said:

What, like this? I legit just did a search and this was the first. Not particularly doom-inspiring, other than that the stupid fucking question was posed in the first place.

 

I'll try to find the specific clip I had in mind.  Within hours of Georgia flipping he was on TV going off about how the election had sent a message that the DNC had to move had center, should "never say the word 'socialism' again," etc. etc.

 

We narrowly avoided driving the car straight off the cliff, and now the DNC neolib power base is trying to grab the wheel and screaming "turn around! We missed it!"

 

Which was completely predictable.

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6 minutes ago, ignatius said:

.. he could even rage out for 4 years and start campaigning to run in 2024. 

 

That's why I'm hoping that he goes bat shit insane and attacks the election process so hard that the Republicans are forced to disown him and hinder future chances to run for any office on the Republican ticket.

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7 minutes ago, TubularCorporation said:

I'll try to find the specific clip I had in mind.  Within hours of Georgia flipping he was on TV going off about how the election had sent a message that the DNC had to move had center, should "never say the word 'socialism' again," etc. etc.

 

We narrowly avoided driving the car straight off the cliff, and now the DNC neolib power base is trying to grab the wheel and screaming "turn around! We missed it!"

 

Which was completely predictable.

Honestly I do hope that we never hear the word socialism spoken again, at least by GOP. They have completely driven that term into the ground, they just use it like an epithet with no thought behind it, just some archetype of a Stalin boogeyman. I hope to hear "public" and "for all" replacing "socialism", i.e. as applied to health care, education, etc.

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I do agree that the same policies can be branded differently and have broader appeal (and I don't and never have identified as one even though I've always agreed with a lot of socialist goals and policy, because I think that the term is largely meaningless at this point just like any widely adopted label ends up), but on the other hand the DSA-endorsed candidates for congress this year performed really well, in an election where the DNC is basically bleeding support.

 

Kind of like how the centrist narrative against the BLM protests is completely a odds with the fact that the huge spike in Democrat voter registration in swing states driven by the protests was enough on its own to swing the election in Biden's favor, all else being equal.

https://insights.targetsmart.com/august-7-2020-the-impact-of-covid-the-civil-rights-movement-on-voter-registration.html

I can't find the specific Morning Joe clip because their web site is a complete paywalled mess, their Youtube channel isn't much better, and I herd it in the middle of a livestream two days ago, but it's the same narrative we've been hearing from the usual suspects since Thursday.

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Oh, yeah, it's the future. Rugged individualism isn't sustainable. It's just that the Overton window got completely jacked by fashies and we have to fix that before we can get some real work done.

I think there is a lag between what the majority of voters are ready for (which Bernie showed is actually pretty far to the left) vs. what the establishment and suburban Boomer voters are ready for, and then in turn what rural flyover voters can stomach, the last of which is super narrow and completely fucked and only relevant because of ancient compromises like the senate and the electoral college.

And if while we try to move the Overton window (which might take forever), we need to do more stuff like this:
https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

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