very honest 1393 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 nice illustration of what is happening: the modern gop beholden to their caretakers, morally vacant fox news: Link to post Share on other sites
chenGOD 1605 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 9:50 AM, dingformung said: Democracy is tied to human rights, otherwise it's not democracy. That doesn't mean that democracies can't violate human rights, but they have to be integral part of every democracy's state of law, and in the case of the US pre 65 the country's laws directly opposed any modern idea of human rights by being the legal framework for a racial caste system. If the US before the Voting Rights Act of 1965 was a democracy, then modern Iran is a democracy, too. Also, causing regime changes where democracies or forming democracies are replaced by dictatorships isn't something particularly democratic. The US actively suppressed democracy in other places of the world, dictatorships are easier to control. But that is another matter. 16 is for local and regional elections here, and I think 14-year-olds should be able to vote in such elections, too. Some of them understand more about politics than some 60-year-olds and their brain is developed enough to think about politics. It also helps politicising them. Sure, they are probably easier to influence and parties would (have to) cater to young people more to get more votes, but that's not a bad thing. Young people have to live the longest with the aftermath of the decisions that are made now. Generally politics are very age-ist because controlled by boomers and giving the new generation some more weight in elections isn't a terrible idea. Not sure about voting age for national elections, though. It should probably be 16, not 14, but I don't know. Human rights are very much a modern thing whereas democracies have been around for thousands of years. I’m not sure the idea of the two is necessarily entwined. Modern Iran is a theocracy, as religious officials hold more power than elected ones. Not quite sure why you’re bringing in foreign policy matters. I’d say that 18 is a good age for voting mostly because then you’ve finished high school and should have some capacity for critical thinking (please note I said should...) Link to post Share on other sites
cyanobacteria 1041 Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, chenGOD said: Human rights are very much a modern thing whereas democracies have been around for thousands of years. I’m not sure the idea of the two is necessarily entwined. Modern Iran is a theocracy, as religious officials hold more power than elected ones. Not quite sure why you’re bringing in foreign policy matters. I’d say that 18 is a good age for voting mostly because then you’ve finished high school and should have some capacity for critical thinking (please note I said should...) interesting how older voters disproportionately vote for regressive pieces of shit but for some reason were talking about a minimum voting age instead of a maximum voting age 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
zero 1068 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 since all these lawsuits to stop the steal are going nowhere, plan B is to start arresting family members of your political opponent. the mission here is to create so much bad press for Biden, that the courts are forced to give those far-fetched kraken based accusations a 3rd or 4th look. easiest to start with low-hanging fruit - Biden's drug using, China loving son: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/09/justice-department-interest-hunter-biden-taxes-444139 Quote In addition to Delaware, the securities fraud unit in the Southern District of New York also scrutinized Hunter Biden’s finances, according to the person with direct knowledge of the investigation. The person said that, as of early last year, investigators in Delaware and Washington were also probing potential money laundering and Hunter Biden’s foreign ties. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the matter publicly. then target Joe's brother as well: Quote In addition to the probe into Hunter Biden, federal authorities in the Western District of Pennsylvania are conducting a criminal investigation of a hospital business in which Joe Biden’s brother James was involved. Federal officials have asked questions about James Biden's role in the business, according to a second person with direct knowledge of that investigation, who said it remains ongoing. and if all else fails, you frame Joe for murder. if he's in jail, he can't be president. Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7145 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 this is all so fucked up and shameful. Link to post Share on other sites
Nebraska 2084 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 ^^ it is, but the DNC has shillinged biden from day 1. so he's in good hands 😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites
zero 1068 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 it really is hilarious when you think about how trump is directing people to investigate the Biden clan for money laundering. donnie should have been jailed for numerous white collar crimes by now. but no, he'll ride out his days in a fucking golf scooter on his Floridian dictator compound. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
chenGOD 1605 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I didn't know where to put this, but to illustrate the importance of voting in local elections: https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-pol-brandon-scott-inauguration-20201208-e6plg5omprh33lecpchscxf6g4-story.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nebraska 2084 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) On 12/10/2020 at 11:16 AM, ignatius said: this is all so fucked up and shameful. maybe we should just do the election all over again until we get the results that make everyone happy Edited December 11, 2020 by Nebraska Link to post Share on other sites
Nebraska 2084 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) SCOTUS allows biden to steal the election. Quote WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court refused Friday to let Texas challenge the election results in four battleground states critical to President Donald Trump's defeat at the polls last month, likely sealing his political fate. "Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections," the court said in a brief order. It dismissed all other related claims as moot. this means war. and kavanaugh is now a rapist (?) edit: kavanaugh has been compromised Edited December 12, 2020 by Nebraska Link to post Share on other sites
Nebraska 2084 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 btw: does anyone find it interesting that experts cracked ted cruz's code and his state just got the gas face on the same day? 🤔 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7145 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nebraska 2084 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 wonder if they'll take brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrett with them Link to post Share on other sites
ambermonke 1820 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, ignatius said: 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Nebraska 2084 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 patriots are not having this Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
nikisoko 406 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 milo cyrus has really let herself go Link to post Share on other sites
Nebraska 2084 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7145 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, Nebraska said: can't wait for this fast food ephedrine guzzling shit bag to drop dead. i've read about half dozen "big mood over at parler" tweets that are all bananas. the Q anon take is all batshit. deep state has the supreme court and blah blah. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ambermonke 1820 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 We should send him to Iran. They've been demanding his capture, so let's not keep them waiting. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Braintree 1983 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Nebraska said: patriots are not having this Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7145 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 lolz. conservative reddit eating itself 2 Link to post Share on other sites
cyanobacteria 1041 Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 cant give a shit about US bourgeois politics anymore since its now entirely out of our hands now that the temporary power rearranging process is over Link to post Share on other sites
Rubin Farr 3511 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Cryptowen 851 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 mfw trump spent all that time watching the gorilla channel in order to prepare for gorilla warfare 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rubin Farr 3511 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 26 minutes ago, Cryptowen said: mfw trump spent all that time watching the gorilla channel in order to prepare for gorilla warfare I keep seeing maga idiots on social media calling for “succession” lol 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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