randomsummer Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 11 hours ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said: NBC is a far right capitalist network, there are no left-leaning shows on it Ok, tovarishch, while you're not wrong from a global standpoint I meant left-leaning for the US or Democratic party-leaning, but I think you already knew that and were just being a troll. Imagine that. Edited January 7 by randomsummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 right wingers are in a jam. while trump tries his best to distance himself from jan 6th, most right wingers have taken the leap to convincing themselves it didn't happen. fox realized this when they called biden's win, but congress hasn't caught up because they were the target. enter tucker carlson: he noticed ted cruz acknowledging jan 6th in congress and gave him a call to appear on his show. ted, innocently assumed it's more "talking points" he has to repeat, but tucker seems adamant he explain himself. ted doesn't seem to understand why tucker is doing this and keeps repeating his chestnut that he was taken out of context, but tucker isn't buying none of it ted 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cern Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Is there any proof that Trump ordered strictly to people to storm Capitolium?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 minutes ago, cern said: Is there any proof that Trump ordered strictly to people to storm Capitolium?? yes there is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilqx hermolia xpli Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 (edited) 5 hours ago, randomsummer said: Ok, tovarishch, while you're not wrong from a global standpoint I meant left-leaning for the US or Democratic party-leaning, but I think you already knew that and were just being a troll. Imagine that. I wasn't being a troll I was stating a fact. America is detached from reality and statements made as if they're true and normal just because they're in a US context should be fact-checked. The democratic party of the US is also far right Edited January 7 by ilqx hermolia xpli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trying to be less rude Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, cern said: Is there any proof that Trump ordered strictly to people to storm Capitolium?? he didn't say "go crime" but once they were in, he refused to tell them to leave until hours later, after the cops had beat them back anyway. literally everyone was begging him for hours to ask them to leave, but he wouldn't. he was watching on tv, rewinding and rewatching, excited. so, this demonstrates the intent that he wanted it. he's a master of hiding behind strategically vague wording. the people interpretted that this is what he wanted, and he knew that, but he was careful not to say it explicitly. hiding behind ambiguous wording helps people get away with things sometimes but not all the time. plenty of mob bosses who thought they were insulated by never stating the criminal things explicitly, nevertheless, go to prison. Edited January 7 by trying to be less rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikisoko Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 As the president of the united states, he told everyone for months that the election had been stolen, that our democracy was coming to an end and that stopping the certification of the votes was the last possible thing we could do to save the United States. If you yell fire in a crowded theater and people get trampled, you will be held responsible. I don’t see how this is any different, regardless of the exact phrasing that was used that day. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomsummer Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said: I wasn't being a troll I was stating a fact. America is detached from reality and statements made as if they're true and normal just because they're in a US context should be fact-checked. The democratic party of the US is also far right America is not detached from reality, there is just a different standard here compared to the European standard. Is that OK for you? Sure in America as a whole, the "center" of politics is probably far more conservative compared to Europe, but within the American political landscape, NBC is more "left-leaning" compared to our center. Dunno how many times I have to say that. Edited January 7 by randomsummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilqx hermolia xpli Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 19 minutes ago, randomsummer said: America is not detached from reality, there is just a different standard here compared to the European standard. Is that OK for you? Sure in America as a whole, the "center" of politics is probably far more conservative compared to Europe, but within the American political landscape, NBC is more "left-leaning" compared to our center. Dunno how many times I have to say that. I'm just not going to sit by and have people call mainstream media in the US "left-leaning" when it's all far-right. I will correct them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 21 hours ago, usagi said: lot of good sample material there. Also, didn't realize it was the All Gas No Brakes guy who did the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 13 minutes ago, chenGOD said: Also, didn't realize it was the All Gas No Brakes guy who did the interview. yeah, there was some saga with that where the AGNB channel got fucked up and taken over. Channel 5 is his new joint. it's a pity he can't bring over the old content, the AVN Expo video is quality educational material that should be shown in schools. Edited January 8 by usagi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, usagi said: yeah, there was some saga with that where the AGNB channel got fucked up and taken over. Channel 5 is his new joint. it's a pity he can't bring over the old content, the AVN Expo video is quality educational material that should be shown in schools. Yeah just been reading about the draaaama. Real shame about that - and that AVN video is the tits. He was probably the best possible person to interview the lunatic in prison. Either him or Louis Theroux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 12 hours ago, trying to be less rude said: he didn't say "go crime" but once they were in, he refused to tell them to leave until hours later, after the cops had beat them back anyway. literally everyone was begging him for hours to ask them to leave, but he wouldn't. he was watching on tv, rewinding and rewatching, excited. so, this demonstrates the intent that he wanted it. he's a master of hiding behind strategically vague wording. the people interpretted that this is what he wanted, and he knew that, but he was careful not to say it explicitly. hiding behind ambiguous wording helps people get away with things sometimes but not all the time. plenty of mob bosses who thought they were insulated by never stating the criminal things explicitly, nevertheless, go to prison. He did say go to the Capitol and fight, you have to fight and you can never show weakness. So they went to the Capitol and fought, everyone. I’d say he’s totally responsible, along with the other shitheads who were speaking on stage and riling the crowd up. What I don't see mentioned hardly by any media, is that Trump told the crowd he was leading them down to the Capitol, so a large portion that heard him say thought they were following their POTUS to "liberate" the Capitol from an illegitimate administration. Of course, he cowered and immediately went to the White House to watch the debacle on TV, and do nothing but sit on his fat ass. Now he claims the Secret Service wouldn't let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkface Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 10 hours ago, chenGOD said: lot of good sample material there. Also, didn't realize it was the All Gas No Brakes guy who did the interview. He lost the all gas no brakes youtube channel a little while ago and now runs channel 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trying to be less rude Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 6 hours ago, Rubin Farr said: He did say go to the Capitol and fight, you have to fight and you can never show weakness. So they went to the Capitol and fought, everyone. I’d say he’s totally responsible, along with the other shitheads who were speaking on stage and riling the crowd up. What I don't see mentioned hardly by any media, is that Trump told the crowd he was leading them down to the Capitol, so a large portion that heard him say thought they were following their POTUS to "liberate" the Capitol from an illegitimate administration. Of course, he cowered and immediately went to the White House to watch the debacle on TV, and do nothing but sit on his fat ass. Now he claims the Secret Service wouldn't let him go. yeah, for sure. it's like connect the dots where you can tell it's a butterfly, but trump is like "hey i just put the dots and the numbers there, i didn't know it's a butterfly" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trying to be less rude Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) here are 2 good podcasts a lawfare podcast episode with detailed info on what we know about the conspirators of jan 6, mainly proud boys and oath keepers so far. around 40 charged with conspiracy already, as doj is beginning to move past the early phase of the investigation. interesting play by play details regarding logistics, planning and actions on the ground that day regarding those militias https://www.lawfareblog.com/lawfare-podcast-roger-parloff-conspirators and an episode dealing with the doj case from Sisters in Law, which is probably one of the best podcasts for current events legal commentary right now. be ready to skip 5 minutes of commercials at the beginning. good reactions to garland's jan 5 speech from doj professionals https://politicon.com/podcasts/a-tale-of-two-speeches/ and i'll just put garland's jan 5 speech here too, which is worth a watch Edited January 10 by trying to be less rude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 rand paul got the memo that cancun cruz blew it on tucker, so here he is trying to deliver the coup de grâce in fauci's career before he positions himself for a different seat in office 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Jesus fuck Paul is an absolute tool. Classic tactic of throwing out question after question trying to find something. Fauci doesn't do very well here, he should demand the first time Paul interrupts him that he be allowed to finish his response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomsummer Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, chenGOD said: Jesus fuck Paul is an absolute tool. Classic tactic of throwing out question after question trying to find something. Fauci doesn't do very well here, he should demand the first time Paul interrupts him that he be allowed to finish his response. I used to wonder why our government couldn't get anything done, couldn't agree with each other, couldn't compromise to get stuff done. Bit by bit, congressmen and women have been replaced by people like this fuckwad, and imagine trying to get anything done having to work with a critical mass of morons like that guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 30 minutes ago, randomsummer said: I used to wonder why our government couldn't get anything done, couldn't agree with each other, couldn't compromise to get stuff done. Bit by bit, congressmen and women have been replaced by people like this fuckwad, and imagine trying to get anything done having to work with a critical mass of morons like that guy. the 80s/90s really turned things upside down. once the evangelicals started getting into politics and culture wars were kicked off the division really ramped up. newt gingrich sucks hard. all those reagan era fucks sucked hard. moreal majority.. sucked hard. heritage foundation.. sucks hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 American idol Clay Aiken running for Congress: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/589000-clay-aiken-launches-second-bid-for-congress I like his message. what he's saying seems reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 hours ago, chenGOD said: Jesus fuck Paul is an absolute tool. he's trying to do damage control for this blunder, not to mention this embarrassing tweet - both of which continue to haunt his career post T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 27 minutes ago, Nebraska said: he's trying to do damage control for this blunder, not to mention this embarrassing tweet - both of which continue to haunt his career post T. That tweet was comedy genius and no one can tell me otherwise. Only bested by another tool sliding a dildo up his own rectum to "own the libs". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 This is funny though: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fauci-hot-mic-roger-marshall-b1991054.html And here's the audio: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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