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9 minutes ago, Rubin Farr said:

These people won’t do shit. They had their one chance on 1/6, and now law enforcement around the country has been hardened as a result of their failure. Jim Bob & Joe Bob will go to their Klan meetings, drink a case of beer, bitch up a storm, then go back to work at Home Depot on Monday.

unless they make fewer "mistakes" next time. most of these people are looking for a snowball rolling down hill they can stick themselves to. if something like that happens a bunch of them will get shot at, die or go home. 

it's not beyond realm of possibility for there to be some minor shooting incident between a few of the more hardcore types and some swat or national guard or cops or whatever. i'd expect the state's reaction to that would be a serious crack down + chaos in congress as the more idiot type of congress people double down on the stupidity and "FREEDOM!" talk. 

it's all a spectacle. pretty obvious that whatever these people expect to happen is not going to happen. the IRS is not coming to take their guns etc. the IRS is increasing staff because there's something like $1 trillion in uncollected taxes and also wealthy people have tax attorneys and auditing them takes a lot of resources and time. 

the orange elephant in the room is trump and whatever happens w/his rhetoric etc and if people latch on to it in any kind of real way. 

personally, i'll be riding my bike, trying to make music and sweating out the next heat wave. ugh. 95+ all next week. 

 

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8 hours ago, ignatius said:

there's thousands of his followers and conspiracy tards getting into "go mode" pointing to the funding for the IRS in the new bill just passed as a way that they'll come take their guns. they think the IRS is going to take their guns. "america is over. this is the first move" and all that kind of shit. as if the federal gov't is going to have 20,000 IRS agents by friday this week to start collecting people's guns. wtf. it's all so dumb. 

also, who puts the american flag at the head of their bed? lot's of people put the cross there but the flag? is that a twin bed in his mom's basement? wtf w/these people who need some kind of thing to latch on to to give their life purpose... to feel important.. fucking idiots. 

 

These kinds of people have always existed, always spouting the same kind of crazy stuff.  It's not like there are suddenly more of them.

The only difference now is that it's much easier for them to organize and spread ideas though social media. I hope the FBI is closely watching out for that kind of thing.

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9 minutes ago, randomsummer said:

The only difference now is that it's much easier for them to organize and spread ideas though social media.

yep. they're all total badasses on twitter. and of course whenever these type of dudes all get together IRL standing around like morons holding automatic weapons in front of some public building... but I don't think any of these jack offs are capable of organizing a deadly serious initiative to overthrow the government. they can post whatever crap on social media in an attempt to come off as hard and threatening. but these are the types that mostly don't have serious life planning skills. they live in fantasy land. if you really want to plan some initiative to overthrow the government, then you do it quietly and intelligently (um, not like I know, um...). now those are the ones I hope the FBI would be on top of. 

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1 hour ago, randomsummer said:

These kinds of people have always existed, always spouting the same kind of crazy stuff.  It's not like there are suddenly more of them.

the US population has approximately doubled over the last 50ish years. the proportion of people who are crazies may be similar, but there *are* definitely more of them. 

2 minutes ago, randomsummer said:

I wouldn't say they took it over, they basically broke in and then looked around for an hour or so. And this was them disorganized, which is why I hope the FBI is looking out for organization.

i wouldn’t say they took it over exactly, but they were trying. people were being shot and killed. they definitely didn’t just ‘look around’ ffs. there would’ve been much more violence if the insurrectionists had access to their targets.

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I'm not downplaying it at all.  What I meant was, there was no concerted, shared plan. Maybe a handful of rogue actors had plans to get Pence or Pelosi, but the vast majority just broke in and wandered around the building. Imagine if they would've all been more organized...

I've said this here before, but I kind of wish they had reached Pence or some other Congressperson and not killed them of course but roughed them up. That would've made it MUCH harder for the R assholes in Congress to ignore during the impeachment trial. As it stands, it's much easier for them to brush it off because yeah they came close but, hey, nothing bad happened to them or their colleagues.  That's the view they're taking and feeding to their supporters.  Of course the reality is that a bunch of morons tried to overthrow the government at a very vulnerable moment, but weren't organized enough to accomplish their goals.

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it's surprising the cops didn't shoot more people on jan 6th. i know at certain points it would've meant they got charged and overwhelmed but more than one cop was knocked out. i guess they have their rules of engagement or whatever. only squeezed off the one round when the idiots were close enough to the congress people and VP to be a problem.  

 

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1 hour ago, randomsummer said:

I'm not downplaying it at all.  What I meant was, there was no concerted, shared plan. Maybe a handful of rogue actors had plans to get Pence or Pelosi, but the vast majority just broke in and wandered around the building. Imagine if they would've all been more organized...

agreed. there wasn't a shared plan spread across large amounts of individuals that set foot in there. if they had all been instructed in some coordinated manner with clear instruction as to who needs to do what exactly, then it would have been total chaos. I don't even want to imagine what that would've looked like. and that's when military intervention steps in, and you have untold number of casualties...and then the country implodes. 

we do know that there were groups (e.g. proud boys) that did have a coordinated plan to take hostages, in some sort of effort to get the election overturned, and trump re-elected. but even that would have backfired. you start taking hostages and public opinion is going to sway pretty quickly on this endeavor. the horn wearing dudes and the rest of the crackadoodle tourists would have been cleared out, and then it's the suicidal idiots taking hostages vs. a shit ton of highly trained law enforcement/military dudes, and I'd take a guess who would come out on top. if they did kill a hostage out of desperation, then yeah, that would have almost surely ended the R support for the trump train...or at least I'd hope so. 

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here's what I predict will happen to donald - nothing. the trial will get dragged out, charges will be slapped on everyone but donald. he will get away with it all (again), sludging along his merry way, hurtling wildly toward a 2nd term. the R's will win both houses in November, and the political shenanigans in this country will continue, until every sane person in this country has completely and totally lost their fuckin minds... 

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On 8/10/2022 at 10:56 PM, ignatius said:

the IRS is increasing staff because there's something like $1 trillion in uncollected taxes and also wealthy people have tax attorneys and auditing them takes a lot of resources and time. 

imagine thinking we should let the owning class control the means of production and get this money to begin with.  clearly it should all be concentrated into the hands of the proletariat and taxed at 100%.  then we don't need the IRS

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4 hours ago, Nebraska said:

capitalism to the end yo

super edgy editing featuring digital effects added. stern sounding voice overs using clear and distinguished sounding voices. stuttering orchestral stabs utilizing timpani kettle drum effects. this is how they brainwash them... 

 

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