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My first non-expert impression of the indictment is they've gone for the most simple version. Or least severe charges. But I'll wait for the expert opinions to tell me what the actual meaning is. So far though, it's mostly the number (#34 indictments) that's impressive about this case.

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I've been avoiding any mention of this cunt but is this primarily about the pornstar hush money and other business frauds? my concern is that he will be prosecuted for these relatively trivial issues, it'll all just bounce off him and then he'll get a pass for his far worse actions, along with renewed vitality and fervor from his base. if you're gonna nail him, nail him for good.

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exposing the twitter files. this is like watching a boxing match where it becomes very clear matt taibbi is not a boxer the minute he enters the ring. with every punch he threw, he added an excuse why he didn't connect

 

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22 minutes ago, Nebraska said:

exposing the twitter files. this is like watching a boxing match where it becomes very clear matt taibbi is not a boxer the minute he enters the ring. with every punch he threw, he added an excuse why he didn't connect

 

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Republicans being pieces of shit and dems being pieces of shit are not mutually exclusive.

Establishment dems don't like the twitter files because it exposes their seedy behavior also.  Remember that piece of shit Debbie Wassername Shultz, you know, the one who railroaded Bernie on Hillary's behalf and loves to play the stock market on the inside?  Seeing her with knives out for Taibbi at the hearing was a thing to behold.  MSNBC carries all the water they can fit on their backs for the DNC.  Both political parties in this country are basically RICOs.

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21 hours ago, BobDobalina said:

Republicans being pieces of shit and dems being pieces of shit are not mutually exclusive.

Establishment dems don't like the twitter files because it exposes their seedy behavior also.  Remember that piece of shit Debbie Wassername Shultz, you know, the one who railroaded Bernie on Hillary's behalf and loves to play the stock market on the inside?  Seeing her with knives out for Taibbi at the hearing was a thing to behold.  MSNBC carries all the water they can fit on their backs for the DNC.  Both political parties in this country are basically RICOs.

 

the twitter files were pretty transparently a lame attempt by musk to own the libs. no real journalists took it seriously, it was a joke. 

 

there's no equivocating the dems and the gop. the gop is the end result of decades of pandering to the rich and powerful. it's like 10th generation inbreeding. a monstrosity. the country was nearly overthrown by trump thanks to them. they let that happen

 

bernie's not perfect, like anyone. 

 

the dnc is an event planning committee demonized by fox, trump, alex jones, and the russian info campaign that sought to turn bernie bros against the dems.

 

msnbc has some good stuff, and some less good. ari melber is good.

 

by the way, "both sides are the same" is PRECISELY one of the most widely deployed narratives by confirmed propagandist trolls. the real nefarious powers want people to not pay attention. they want you to think it's all the same.

 

in truth, the gop do orders of magnitude more egregious, self-serving, and deceptive stuff. at least 2 orders of magnitude, though quantifying this is not a science. but i'd say they might be 1000 times worse than the dems. it's really something to behold. it's actually hard to comprehend just how depraved congressional republicans are. more horrifying and grotesque than the worst trip. facing your own death, or facing devastating ruin or loss, are less repugnant than truly beholding the modern gop. they are an affront to thousands of years of what our ancestors in civilization worked and fought and died to build. they threaten the structural integrity of society so they can fleece it, like heroin addicts. my skin crawls thinking about the filth in the capitol

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I agree with you by and large that what passes for "conservative" ideology these days is deplorable and wretched.  And the GOP can go eat their own asses

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They'd like you to think it so, but the left ("liberal" ideology) and Democrats are not the same.  And even if they're an order or orders of magnitude more shit than republicans, they're still shit.  The fuck have they done for working ppl economically in the past 40 years?  They're bought and paid for, just by a different groups of rich people and the bet-hedging M-I complex.   If you want to see Democrat shittiness in all it's glory please come take a visit to my home state (RI).  They're a hypermajority, entrenched in power, and run the state like a racket.

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11 minutes ago, BobDobalina said:

I agree with you by and large that what passes for "conservative" ideology these days is deplorable and wretched.  And the GOP can go eat their own asses

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They'd like you to think it so, but the left ("liberal" ideology) and Democrats are not the same.  And even if they're an order or orders of magnitude more shit than republicans, they're still shit.  The fuck have they done for working ppl economically in the past 40 years?  They're bought and paid for, just by a different groups of rich people and the bet-hedging M-I complex.   If you want to see Democrat shittiness in all it's glory please come take a visit to my home state (RI).  They're a hypermajority, entrenched in power, and run the state like a racket.

 

ok, sure. glad we could clarify. many dems are disappointing or poor. many i like a lot. i wouldn't be surprised to learn that some were quite bad, and i could probably think of some. sorry to hear about the issues in your state. 

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this is an interesting development. it points to trump prosecution resulting from the jan 6 investigation happening. and happening in a bigger way than was previously anticipated. the fact that special counsel jack smith is now incorporating fraud for trump's fundraising, that's something he would do if the investigation was finding the evidence establishing that trump knew his claims were false. being able to prove that element of intent is precisely the hardest part of the prosecution, and it sounds like they have it. doing the fraud case for fundraising is what you would do if you were going to move forward because

  • it's true, trump raised hundreds of millions of dollars, a comparable amount to an entire presidential campaign, based on his allegations of fraud. and that scheme was itself a fraud. it is utterly appropriate to prosecute him for that
  • it will help defuse the disinfo attempts to confuse the public, in the event of prosecuting for jan 6 crimes

 

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Fox News and its parent company Fox Corp. have struck a deal averting a trial in the blockbuster defamation suit filed by the election-tech company Dominion Voting Systems over spurious claims of fraud in the 2020 presidential race. Judge Eric M. Davis of the Delaware Superior Court announced the settlement from the bench on Tuesday afternoon ahead of the trial's scheduled start.

The parties settled for $787,500,000 — about half of Dominion's original $1.6 billion ask. The amount "represents vindication and accountability," said Dominion lawyer Justin Nelson. "Lies have consequences."

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/18/1170339114/fox-news-settles-blockbuster-defamation-lawsuit-with-dominion-voting-systems

that was quick. hope this has ramifications otherwise what was the point of that besides giving CNN some schadenfreude

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20 minutes ago, Nebraska said:

The parties settled for $787,500,000 — about half of Dominion's original $1.6 billion ask. The amount "represents vindication and accountability," said Dominion lawyer Justin Nelson. "Lies have consequences."

that's (roughly) a year's worth of ad sales for Fox News. i'm sure they've been holding a few stacks of cash somewhere for just this sort of thing tho. daddy Murdoch's got big pockets.

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