caze 523 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Zeffolia said: i dont care how much it fucking costs, i'd sooner seize every mansion, yacht, luxury car, and every billionaire's wealth, than sit by with this bullshit any longer. actual humans are sick of neolibs who are themselves disconnected from the reality of the effects of the economic policies they want lol. ✊ fight the power zeff I'm loving this idea that you think I'm the one who's divorced from reality, you couldn't make this shit up. I find it hard to believe you're a real person. Maybe you're just a kid and don't know any better. 6 minutes ago, ignatius said: see my above post. i see bernie's plans as a negotiating tactic. start w/a high bid. compromise. it's the way of the world and the way of gov't. if that's all it is then it's a very shit negotiating tactic, would remind me of the Brits trying to negotiate with the EU. Bernie and most of his hardcore support don't see it as a tactic though. they genuinely think it's a good plan. lol. also, the other candidates have better plans, and they won't need to negotiate with their own party to get them through as long as they win the senate. Edited March 4, 2020 by caze Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7166 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Zeffolia said: https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/sanders-splits-aoc-medicare-for-all-already-compromise-town-hall-2020-2-1028920152 >But my view is that Medicare for All, the bill that we wrote, is in a sense already a compromise. It is a four-year transition period yeah i know what he wants and believes but the reality of it is different. congress isn't going to pass something like that w/o leaving its claw marks on it. Link to post Share on other sites
cyanobacteria 1044 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, caze said: lol. ✊ fight the power zeff I'm loving this idea that you think I'm the one who's divorced from reality, you couldn't make this shit up. I find it hard to believe you're a real person. Maybe you're just a kid and don't know any better. this is a funny post coming from someone who ignored everything i said and instead only insulted me. at least i put substance around my insults 1 Link to post Share on other sites
caze 523 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 fucking flol 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7166 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 for the lulz 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
auxien 2761 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, caze said: fucking flol can't wait to laugh at this posted again in a a year or two when he croaks edit: Bloomberg stating he's going to 'reassess' his run tomorrow. so, he's dropping out as soon as it looks like Bernie's lost it. pretty much expected i guess? Edited March 4, 2020 by auxien Link to post Share on other sites
caze 523 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Sanders isn't in great shape either. whatever happens, VP is gonna be important. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7166 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, caze said: Sanders isn't in great shape either. whatever happens, VP is gonna be important. absolutely Link to post Share on other sites
auxien 2761 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 ^no doubt. curious to see if the Stacey Abrams thing as Biden's VP pick actually has legs or just is some rumor Link to post Share on other sites
auxien 2761 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Biden: "we're gonna bring everyone along! no matter what!" cut to a dozen clips of Biden saying 'vote for someone else then you hamster sniffing tiddly popper' 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7166 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, caze said: lol. ✊ fight the power zeff I'm loving this idea that you think I'm the one who's divorced from reality, you couldn't make this shit up. I find it hard to believe you're a real person. Maybe you're just a kid and don't know any better. if that's all it is then it's a very shit negotiating tactic, would remind me of the Brits trying to negotiate with the EU. Bernie and most of his hardcore support don't see it as a tactic though. they genuinely think it's a good plan. lol. also, the other candidates have better plans, and they won't need to negotiate with their own party to get them through as long as they win the senate. you'd think that but the ACA was mostly shagged senseless by democrats who couldn't bend over enough for the insurance companies. there was a lot of infighting among democrats to get it to move forward. it's just the nature of the process than any idea is going to get scarred and clawed and stuffed with amendments. starting w/a high bar is what they all do. even with the budget every year. the white house proposes a ridiculous budget and negotiates.. using some of their proposal as pawns. all of congress has an agenda and they are usually divergent. Link to post Share on other sites
caze 523 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 they don't have the luxury to do that any more, they know they need to deliver on health care reform. I can see 1-2 making some noise, but it won't be a big deal in the end. Link to post Share on other sites
ignatius 7166 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, caze said: they don't have the luxury to do that any more, they know they need to deliver on health care reform. I can see 1-2 making some noise, but it won't be a big deal in the end. i hope you're right but the democrats are notoriously tribal. the republicans manage to stay solidly on message.. at least until the tea party came around.. they're still way more likely to stay unified while, quite often, the democrats have a hard time seizing the day when they have the numbers. Link to post Share on other sites
auxien 2761 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Biden gets Minnesota because of Klobuchar dropping, and now Biden just won fuckin' Massachusetts. Warren's home state and right next to Sanders' Vermont. bit of a surprise, especially considering that Biden spent $0 on advertising and campaigning there. and it's a white as all fuck state, so everything (including polls iirc) said that Biden didn't really have any chance there, yet, he took it. not a ton of delegates, but a telling result. Edited March 4, 2020 by auxien Link to post Share on other sites
caze 523 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 that's nuts. woo. Link to post Share on other sites
cyanobacteria 1044 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 its a rich old white people state, no fuck theyre going to protect their capital, they're dirty bourgeois scumbags whose only aim is to prevent a dictatorship of the proletariat, but they will fail 1 Link to post Share on other sites
cyanobacteria 1044 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 warren should have dropped out and endorsed bernie, the fact that she didn't means she's nothing more than a corporate shill, a tool of the bourgeoisie, worse a pet to the elite, she's a failure who actively intended to push the democratic party further right. she's only there to take bernie's votes. thinking otherwise is naive 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Candiru 1022 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, Zeffolia said: its a rich old white people state, no fuck theyre going to protect their capital, they're dirty bourgeois scumbags whose only aim is to prevent a dictatorship of the proletariat, but they will fail Guilty as charged. -Disgustingly affluent geriatric caucasian person who paid off his student loans. I also foreclose houses for shits and giggles and dumpster dive at Trader Joe's because those "expired" frozen pizzas are too damn good for the homeless. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
markedone 627 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Tío Bernie consiguió California vavava @Zeffolia you have a way of wording things in the most insufferably standoffish way possible.. but I have to admit seeing Warren take ~10-20% really seems to have fucked over Bernie in some states he would have decisively delivered otherwise Edited March 4, 2020 by markedone 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
caze 523 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Bloomberg similarly fucked Biden, so it's a bit of a wash. Early voting also caused a problem for Biden in California, where Pete and Klob have 15% of the vote despite having dropped out. Also, the Bernie Bro tactic of tweeting snakes 24/7 at Warren supporters probably didn't help their cause much either. In fact there's some evidence a good bit of what was expected to be her support has gone instead to Biden (especially in Massachusetts, which Sanders was expected to win). 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TubularCorporation 857 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) The sad thing is that I'm 41 and even though we almost definitely just reelected Trump tonight (thanks, Warren) it's still probably the least bad democratic primary in my lifetime (with the possible exception of 2008 because Obama was marginally less shitty than Clinton). Edited March 4, 2020 by TubularCorporation 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TubularCorporation 857 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, caze said: Bernie Bro You are being lied to. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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