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Yo yo yo! Sup sup!

I’ve been really digging this new wave of amiga-based tracker producers that are creating old school jungle in the ways of the mid-90s masters. 

I’m inspired to get into it myself but I’m not super excited about having to hunt down, buy and plug in a ton of vintage amiga gear. 

I recently downloaded the v2.3d app with the hopes that it would be easy to learn. I’m understanding the concepts but having some difficulties. Any of y’all down with this in a way that you might be able to shed light on some ins and outs?

Primarily, I’m curious if someone can point me to a resource or community where they discuss these things. Also, I’m curious about using and finding .lha sound files. 

Most importantly, I’m also just trying to find out how to save a tracker project in the app. 

Any advice would be amazing!!

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Btw, if you have no idea what this is all about, here’s a couple links to peep...

 

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When you say you've downloaded the 2.3d app as in you've downloaded the original Amiga executable for use on an Amiga, or is this an app for a modern OS that's a clone of the original Amiga program ? If it's the former, is there a reason you're sticking to the original hardware & software rather than using a compatible Windows or Mac tracker (eg something like https://openmpt.org/ or https://milkytracker.titandemo.org/ )

.lha is a compressed format (it's like the .zip of the Amiga world) - More likely you'll be wanting .iff files. There's a huge download pack on archive.org of the entire classic ST-xx collection: https://archive.org/details/AmigaSTXX

IIRC all file stuff (saving/loading) is done via the 'Disk Op.' (disk operations) button which'll then bring up another menu for loading and saving samples and your modules (songs)

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59 minutes ago, mcbpete said:

When you say you've downloaded the 2.3d app as in you've downloaded the original Amiga executable for use on an Amiga, or is this an app for a modern OS that's a clone of the original Amiga program ? If it's the former, is there a reason you're sticking to the original hardware & software rather than using a compatible Windows or Mac tracker (eg something like https://openmpt.org/ or https://milkytracker.titandemo.org/ )

.lha is a compressed format (it's like the .zip of the Amiga world) - More likely you'll be wanting .iff files. There's a huge download pack on archive.org of the entire classic ST-xx collection: https://archive.org/details/AmigaSTXX

IIRC all file stuff (saving/loading) is done via the 'Disk Op.' (disk operations) button which'll then bring up another menu for loading and saving samples and your modules (songs)

 

Sorry. I downloaded the clone app... 

https://sourceforge.net/projects/protracker/

should I be using .iff files instead of .lha?

I’ve tried using a couple .lha files and they play back as white noise.

Is there a way to create my own .iff files from my own aiffs/etc?

Thanks!

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If you can get hold of some sort of file converter (aiff or wav to iff) then yeah, although I'm not sure of what applications nowadays still support iff. I've got the super old skool Adobe Audition 1.5 (a.k.a the final version of Cool Edit just before it got totally rebuilt) which supports iff import/export.

But yes you want to be using iff files in that clone - It's trying to use the compressed lha file as raw data hence all that noise

Perhaps you could use the FastTracker clone by the same guy ( https://16-bits.org/ft2.php ). That was the tracker that really got me into tracking back in the day and is very similar in workflow to ProTracker and also supports .wav files for your samples as well as .iff. You can load and save to the 4 channel .mod format but also has the benefit of up to 32 channels for its .xm format

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Second hand amiga's are affordable here, if you stick to the 4 channels you don't need any hardware gear to get started, learn the basics first. Later on you can upgrade the production side with akai samplers and what not. 

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OpenMPT is more true to the classic style of tracker music, which is great if you're composing mod/xm/etc stuff. Renoise is definitely more suited to more modern production, but when I want more accurate emulation of older trackers I'll use MPT. I usually stick with Renoise though.

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On 9/7/2019 at 3:56 PM, plugexpert said:

Second hand amiga's are affordable here, if you stick to the 4 channels you don't need any hardware gear to get started, learn the basics first. Later on you can upgrade the production side with akai samplers and what not. 

You're lucky, I was pricing second hand Amigas here in the USA last fall and getting a solid setup was looking like $1000-$1500

 

 

I used to use Impulse Tracker in DOS, and that's a lot more reasonable to get working on a modern computer.

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11 hours ago, TubularCorporation said:

I used to use Impulse Tracker in DOS, and that's a lot more reasonable to get working on a modern computer.

Any specific reason why one wouldn’t just use Renoise?

(genuinely curious)

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18 hours ago, TubularCorporation said:

I used to use Impulse Tracker in DOS, and that's a lot more reasonable to get working on a modern computer.

If you want IT working natively on new systems (including Mac and Linux) then Schism Tracker has you covered - http://schismtracker.org/

If you're more of a FastTracker bod then this will sort you out (again also Mac & Linux compatible) - https://16-bits.org/ft2.php 

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