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Not too bad, pretty fatigued but no major respiratory problems. Finally got swabbed so should find out if I am actually positive or not by Monday. Would be slightly embarrassing if this is just a poorly-timed cold.

Wife's good, symptom free and I suspect slightly pissed off that I get the run of the house while she's stuck in a hotel room.

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Aside from grumpy wife, all good news - glad it hasn't gotten worse. Get well soon!

 

 

 

Side note I'm prob going to keep bothering anyone that suspects they might have caught this by asking for updates etc. Sorry in advance. ?

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21 hours ago, goDel said:

Yeah. Was pleasently surprised by that general ( i believe) that was on rachel maddows show. Yesterday, i believe. Trump even tweeted a clip of that with a thank you to rachel. He can be nice. Under specific circumstances.

But it's good to have some visible leadership and process to adress the current issues. And the us military is that thing which could bring some national coordination. That was missing a bit, if you just follow whats coming out of the white house snake pit.

If Trumps poll numbers keep rising, he should thank the army. And everybody else showing leadership. 

Trump's always been like that though. He will crap on someone then thank them for something a week later. I think he gets away with it since his followers seem to have short memories, enjoy "alpha male"posturing, or just don't care because he "says what we're all thinking" as many of them point out without going into further detail.

It happened repeatedly during the 2016 Republican primary. He would show his "dominance" over say, Jeb Bush or Ted Cruz, calling them out on their typical hypocritical crap (while being hypocritical of course), and when his victory was assured he'd have them endorse him, then he'd let them have the privilege of riding on his private jet as he did Chris Christie. 

I know you already know this, but I just like reminding people of it, lol. Trump is just a show for everyone who dislikes him.

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Shame we have the shittiest possible administration during this pandemic. Wish JFK could have jumped thru a wormhole or something back in November 1963 to today, knocked out Trump like Danny Marianino did Danzig in 2004 AND proceeded to stomp him in the nuts, and led an emergency coup d'etat.

Okay, some useful information: apparently CBD is an antiviral agent (and not just physically): https://medcard.app/can-cbd-help-prevent-or-treat-the-covid-19-coronavirus/

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CBD is a powerful antiviral compound – Here’s something that might encourage you a bit. CBD kills viruses. A Covid-19 virus does not want to come across a CBD molecule in a dark blood vessel — or for that matter, on your skin, or in your mouth or nose — because if he does, the bastard is toast. 

Don't smoke it though obv. Use CBD-based oils.

But for ganjaphobes, there's always Vitamin C from citrus fruits and even cranberry juice. And basic cooking ingredients like garlic, ginger, and turmeric should help boost immune defenses as well.

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16 minutes ago, ambergonk said:

Shame we have the shittiest possible administration during this pandemic. Wish JFK could have jumped thru a wormhole or something back in November 1963 to today, knocked out Trump like Danny Marianino did Danzig in 2004 AND proceeded to stomp him in the nuts, and led an emergency coup d'etat.

(sigh)

After all is said and done I wonder how much of the pandemic will be able to be blamed on the Trump administrations actions/lack of action.

When Trump originally said that it was a pandemic I was actually fairly relieved and surprised they seemed to be acting accordingly. However now New York has a ridiculous number of cases and is projected to get over 300,000 now, and you just know it didn't have to be this way.

Also wonder what conservatives will blame in place of Trump because you know there will be no criticism there. Probably say it's overblown since it is mostly concentrated in cities, where more liberals live. Also "Chinese Virus".

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Moving to Nunavut

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4 hours ago, ignatius said:

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LOL. This looks like one of those "you can make up statistics about anything" pie charts.

Well I call BS on "The Economy" bit. Most people's worries about the economy are secondary to their worries about the virus itself, and it certainly isn't #1. It feels like a lie to make people accept the 'weak' response the US govt. has had to the virus.... "can't shut down everything since the economy is more important than a few 100,000 extra deaths... see that's even what people are mostly worried about"

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1 hour ago, Hugh Mughnus said:

Moving to Nunavut

They’re really having nunavut up there. 

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2 hours ago, Brisbot said:

LOL. This looks like one of those "you can make up statistics about anything" pie charts.

Well I call BS on "The Economy" bit. Most people's worries about the economy are secondary to their worries about the virus itself, and it certainly isn't #1. It feels like a lie to make people accept the 'weak' response the US govt. has had to the virus.... "can't shut down everything since the economy is more important than a few 100,000 extra deaths... see that's even what people are mostly worried about"

Apart from the failing dataviz, I wouldn't necessarily assume the percentages themselves are BS though.

The reason is that currently more people are confronted with the impact of the economy than the (direct) impact fo the virus (to themselves, family, o and community btw). For a significant number of people the direct impact of the virus might be relatively far away, while the impact of the economy (do I keep my job!?) can be very immediate. And not secondary either! So yeah, the economic impact is directly felt by a large share of the population, I guess.

It wouldn't surprise me if the percentages are a truthful representation of what is actually on peoples minds. Don't want to argue they are. Mind you! Just saying I wouldn't immediately discard them as BS. 

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100% of Nunavut's population is infected

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2 hours ago, baph said:

They’re really having nunavut up there. 

Damn it, I always wanted to use that but never had an opportunity.  Finally one presents itself and you beat me to it.  :catrage:

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4 hours ago, Hugh Mughnus said:

Moving to Nunavut

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1 hour ago, darreichungsform said:

100% of Nunavut's population is infected

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9 hours ago, Brisbot said:

After all is said and done I wonder how much of the pandemic will be able to be blamed on the Trump administrations actions/lack of action.

When Trump originally said that it was a pandemic I was actually fairly relieved and surprised they seemed to be acting accordingly. However now New York has a ridiculous number of cases and is projected to get over 300,000 now, and you just know it didn't have to be this way.

Also wonder what conservatives will blame in place of Trump because you know there will be no criticism there. Probably say it's overblown since it is mostly concentrated in cities, where more liberals live. Also "Chinese Virus".

hong kong took the early virus news very seriously, took drastic action, and kept a lid on it. SK, similarly, acted boldly, early on, and turned the corner after an early influx of cases.

trump really blew it and continues to. testing is STILL lacking, that is one example.

possibly just as harmful: the public confusion resulting from his foggy, troll, bullshitter mentality. way, way too many americans are still parrotting the (wrong) trump platitude that it's like the flu and it will be fine.

it's been horrific watching him ALLOW this to happen.

he should have taken care of test production very early, and to an adequate extent. that is the necessary first step to allow cases to be identified and quarantined, and to do contact tracing, and testing and quarantining such contactees. that is just how you prevent spread and the US wasn't doing it and so it spread at its exponential rate.

he should have orchestrated surveillance testing to reveal where the virus is in the country. that's how SK got a significant outbreak under control without draconian measures like china took.

he should have not been so precious about the stock market, and instead of bullshitting people, told them the relevant safety info about this virus. actually, the market was seen to tank in correlation with a lack of faith in trump's ability to handle this. if he had not cared only about the market, and instead worked to prevent the outbreak, then the market would have actually fared better, because the outbreak would not be as bad. like the bullshitter he is, instead of working, he chose to bs and hope for the best.

and there was a huge delay. americans, broadly, didn't realize this would be a big issue for them until the beginning of march. experts knew this was a global threat at the end of january. trump pissed away more than a month when he could have really kept a lid on cases in the US.

if obama were president, not only would the US covid situation look nothing like this, i'm sure obama would have helped improve the situations elsewhere, too.

and, to answer your question more directly, brisbot, yes, trump will be viscerally blamed. it's crystal clear to the well-informed that he failed to protect the country. the obama team even left him with a "pandemic playbook" that they never used. susan rice called it criminal negligence. bill gates said the US missed the window for containment, which was possible. gates also says that the US is failing to implement real nation-wide distancing, which he says is the best move, now. even fauci said testing was a federal failure, and that the US is still not where it needs to be with testing.

the US now has the most cases and may soon have the most deaths. we're at 2,000 deaths and the death count, as you can see here, is doubling every 2 days.

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and here's deaths by state in the US:

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COVID is all over the country and deaths are skyrocketing. but trump doesn't want to use federal powers to coordinate medical supply lines, mandate medical supply manufacture, or provide the clear directions that are needed to address this crisis. at this rate, we'll be at 16,000 dead in a week. then it's another week for 256,000 dead, if the rates don't change.

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i agree w/some of the comments about how he may be lowballing the estimates the way trump and some of his fanboy governors are heading.. desantis of florida for example.  

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Imagine the mindfuck situation Fauci is in. He has to do the impossible: be truthful while keeping Trump happy. ...WTF. If he survives this white house, he deserves a nobel peace price as far as I'm concerned.

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From the podcast "This week in Virology":

An immunologist doc called in on his break from covid hospital chaos.
- they're learning new modalities of care. Stealing from China, they've figured out to have four patients to a ventilator.

- certain immunological markers are incredibly strong predictors of outcome, specifically leukocyte to lymphocyte radio, the strongest

- initially, the virus causes symptoms. As virus titers go down due to immune response, the immune system eats itself and everything else via cytokine storm mediated by interleukin 1, 6, 11.

- off label our doctor used a monoclonal antibody to reduce interleukin 6 causing a dying patient to improve considerably.

- nasal swabs from the front of the nose is 95% as effective as the invasive back of nasal passage swab

- aeresolized virus is not much of a problem since it's such a heavy mother, outside of scenarios that would cause it unusually, like intubation. Worry about droplet transmission (sneeze, cough) which goes max 12 feet and most, most importantly contact with fomites. The chief benefit of a mask is to prevent self inoculation by touching your face. No mask, use a scarf for the same purpose.

- hydroxychloroquine is worthless, vitamin c is BAD, since the virus attacks heart, lungs, kidney, liver in that order, limit use of nsaids which tax the kidneys.

- Japan is mainly under reporting

Way way way more information on the podcast http://www.microbe.tv/twiv/

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21 minutes ago, Entorwellian said:

- initially, the virus causes symptoms. As virus titers go down due to immune response, the immune system eats itself and everything else via cytokine storm mediated by interleukin 1, 6, 11.
 

no  idea what that actually means. symptoms go away then the immune systems goes bananas and kills the patient? w/o symptoms?

i guess i'll have to check out the podcast and stoke my anxiety today. 

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