Coronavirus COVID-19

[Tim_J 723]

6 hours ago, Brisbot said:

6 hours ago, ignatius said:

witches can do it... 

 

This is it! This is the answer! 

Let's go Morty!

[Mesh Gear Fox 248]

tim where abouts is your boat atm? it's a cruise boat right?

[jules 398]

2 hours ago, user said:

I feel terrible for saying this but having Trump as the potus during a time like this is like the perfect storm. If someone had described this scenario to me 4 years ago I would probably have believed the pandemic bit, although in no way I would be able to comprehend the far reaching consequences, and the ways, ranging from subtle to explicit, life would be different, I would've scoffed at the idea that someone like Donald Trump would be in office, like that would be the part making this scenario unbelievable and over the top. I think his behaviour and statements go to show that any decent elected official in a time like this would defer to the governmental structures that have been around a lot longer than they have, putting a strong emphasis on Trump's idea he's leading the US rather than trying to serve it.

 

What’s worse is that this is so fucked up and so far gone that he will be reelected and spin this further into oblivion. It’s beyond comprehension at this point

[ignatius 2407]

4 hours ago, user said:

I feel terrible for saying this but having Trump as the potus during a time like this is like the perfect storm. If someone had described this scenario to me 4 years ago I would probably have believed the pandemic bit, although in no way I would be able to comprehend the far reaching consequences, and the ways, ranging from subtle to explicit, life would be different, I would've scoffed at the idea that someone like Donald Trump would be in office, like that would be the part making this scenario unbelievable and over the top. I think his behaviour and statements go to show that any decent elected official in a time like this would defer to the governmental structures that have been around a lot longer than they have, putting a strong emphasis on Trump's idea he's leading the US rather than trying to serve it.

 

 

 

[Stickfigger 774]

4 hours ago, Tim_J said:

i asked for masks to my supervisor and he told us that: NO, no masks, cause then you'll be always trying to place it right and you end up touching your face more than without it...
captain also said it on an PA announcement...

To be fair , that has been the advice from the WHO; masks don't stop you getting it; only wear one if you have symptoms ; keep the masks for those that will need them . Also people wearing masks have been shown to increase their hand to face movements and people wearing gloves sanitise / clean their gloves / change their gloves less frequently than those without meaning the viral counts on their hands are higher at any point in time .  

[Tim_J 723]

1 hour ago, Stickfigger said:

To be fair , that has been the advice from the WHO; masks don't stop you getting it; only wear one if you have symptoms ; keep the masks for those that will need them . Also people wearing masks have been shown to increase their hand to face movements and people wearing gloves sanitise / clean their gloves / change their gloves less frequently than those without meaning the viral counts on their hands are higher at any point in time .  

But you can not show any symptoms but still be infected coughing and sneezing infecting everyone around you... It's not to prevent you from getting it, it's to prevent you from spreading it around... 

Edited April 4 by Tim_J

[Stickfigger 774]

I know , that's my point . I would argue though if you are coughing and sneezing on everyone that you are showing symptoms and yeah , wear a mask if you can't stop coughing 

[goDel 960]

Beau here reminding us that the Trump white house is only focussed on PR. Shooting truth bullets.

 

Edited April 4 by goDel

[mycospherologyst 30]

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[Soloman Tump 444]

13 minutes ago, mycospherologyst said:

 

I love this track. I live about 4 miles from Harrowdown Hill, it's a weird place to visit knowing what happened there. Its quite pretty though.

[cwmbrancity 607]

3 hours ago, mycospherologyst said:

From Field Commander John C. Lilly

To all humans
If you wish to control coincidences in your own life on the planet Earth, we will cooperate and determine those coincidences for you under the following conditions:

1) You must know/assume/simulate our existence in ECCO

2) You must be willing to accept our responsibility for control of your coincidences.

3) You must exert your best capabilities for your survival programs and your own development as an advancing/advanced member of ECCO's earthside corps of controlled coincidence workers. You are expected to use your best intelligence in this service

4) You are expected to expect the unexpected every minute, every hour of every day and of every night.

5) You must be able to maintain conscious/thinking/ reasoning no matter what events we arrange to happen to you. Some of these events will seem cataclysmic/catastrophic/overwhelming: remember stay aware, no matter what happens/apparently happens to you.

6) You are in our training program for life: there is no escape from it. We (not you ) control the long-term coincidences; you (not we) control the shorter-term coincidences by your own efforts.

7) Your major mission on earth is to discover/create that which we do to control the long-term coincidence patterns: you are being trained on Earth to do this job.

😎 When your mission on planet Earth is completed, you will no longer be required to remain/return there.

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Just watch the K and dolphin wanking. ECCO’s patience ends with the latter. 23.

[hijexx 324]

Can't believe people are still arguing over whether wearing masks is a good idea or not.

"But, but, government says don't wear them!"

You do you.

[auxien 1327]

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/31/824560471/should-we-all-be-wearing-masks-in-public-health-experts-revisit-the-question

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The research may not be conclusive, but researchers we interviewed agreed that mask use is better than nothing. "There are some modest data that it will provide some modest protection," Schaffner says. "And we can use all the protection we can get."

 

[very honest 456]

responding to ^

 

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Thus far, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other health agencies have insisted the primary route of transmission for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is through the larger respiratory droplets, up to 1 millimeter across, that people expel when they cough and sneeze. Gravity grounds these droplets within 1 or 2 meters, although they deposit the virus on surfaces, from which people can pick it up and infect themselves by touching their mouth, nose, or eyes. 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/you-may-be-able-spread-coronavirus-just-breathing-new-report-finds

 

the bigger droplets are the main culpret, as opposed to water vapor, which is voluminous in exhalation. it's those fucking close-talkers. and people with lisps. 

it's a respiratory illness. how many times are 2 dopes walking in relative proximity, and one dope coughs? by reducing the number of instances of such scenarios occuring in which the droplets complete the trip from dope A to dope B, boom, you reduce spread. there are many such scenarios. coughed droplets land on the hands of dopes, and the dopes touch things. reduce the number of instances in which droplets land on hands of dopes, boom reduce the spread. etc.

plus you're not gonna wipe your nose with your hand, unconsciously, if it's covered, etc

accumulate these statistical improvements and what you've got is a blow dealt to the spread. and, because of the exponential potential, any instance of decreased spread can and often does have a profoundly beneficial impact. so, an actually significant body-blow is a big win.

Edited April 4 by very honest

[Rubin Farr 1391]

[cwmbrancity 607]

It’s the lithspsth

[Zephyr_Nova 1090]

I'm worried about Slavoj Žižek.  Any surface he touches is going directly to his face.

[rhmilo 411]

4 hours ago, auxien said:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/31/824560471/should-we-all-be-wearing-masks-in-public-health-experts-revisit-the-question

 

FWIW the official Dutch standpoint - with the Dutch CDC insists is in line with WHO recommendations - is that face masks lead to a false sense of security, increase the risk of transmission (as you’ll be touching your face more to adjust the damn things) and the protection they offer others should *you* be the one that’s contagious is less than if you would just keep a safe distance (which over here is 1.5 meters).

 

They say the only reason to recommend facial masks for everyone if keeping such a safe distance is impossible.

Which I guess it is, in places where they use them a lot, such as Japan or South Korea.

Or the subway in New York.

 

Edited April 4 by rhmilo

[goDel 960]

Yeah. Talked to a clinician a couple weeks ago. He basically said face masks stop being effective after wearing them 20 mins.

So, yeah, false sense of security. And more importantly, you'd want them to be available for healthcare workers. They actually need them. Keeping your distance and washing your hands should be enough for us regular citizens. If everyone starts to wear masks, you end up making it even more difficult for healthcare workers - across the world!! - to be able to use them. Doesn't sound like a good idea at all. 

 

[Zephyr_Nova 1090]

What negates how effective they are after 20 min?

[hijexx 324]

So masks are not effective and healthcare workers need them.

Got it.

[Zephyr_Nova 1090]

Haha yeah, pretty much.

[goDel 960]

36 minutes ago, Zephyr_Nova said:

What negates how effective they are after 20 min?

After 20 mins the fabric is wet. At which point masks stop being effective.

33 minutes ago, hijexx said:

So masks are not effective and healthcare workers need them.

Got it.

Come one man. Not a time to be snarky about this stuff.

The idea is that healthcare workers use a lot of them during the day. Which makes it all the more important they have plenty available. If they can't work protected, you end up with sick healthcare workers.

 

 

[hijexx 324]

I'm tired of hearing all the people who three months ago didn't have the word coronavirus in their vocabulary all of a sudden parroting random opinions about the efficacy of N95 masks and how it's socially irresponsible to use them if you're not a healthcare worker. All of a sudden everyone  is an expert in epidemiology and an authority on who can and can't use certain commercial products.

I have a box of N95's that I've had for years. It's like a 3 pack. They are enough for me. I'm not sitting on a stockpile. I've been sheltering in place since the first week of March and only going out to buy groceries. I wear my mask because I've done enough research to make the risk calculation for myself.

If some scold tries to lecture me about how I shouldn't be wearing my mask they're getting my middle finger in their face.

Edited April 4 by hijexx
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