Coronavirus COVID-19

[Sensitive Outsider]

1 hour ago, Amen Warrior said:

One specific thing I find annoying about the Boris government approach is that international travel restrictions/border control have consistently been an afterthought throughout the whole pandemic. They fought, won and implemented a brexit where border control was one of the central themes, and were handed probably their only chance to win hearts and minds on the other side, and they just fucked it.

 

Of course everyone with a brain knows the border control arguments for brexit were completely bogus and it was just racism, but yeah

Its a weird one , isn't it...I think it just highlights how scattergun their polices and decision making process is, they really are just making it up each time as they go.

Which has been disastrous the last year as we need to be 3-4 weeks ahead of the curve with pre-emptive decisions. 

The one thing the government have been consistent about the last few years, as a key principle in the need for Brexit is taking back control of the borders and immigration. 

Locking down a small island state, limiting flights and putting in place lockdown hotels, testing every essential traveller coming in was all necessary and achievable (as other countries have proved).

You think they would have jumped at the chance to go in hard now and then keep the tough measures even after covid...

But no, to much much hassle, didnt want the blowback from the Airlines or to restrict the liberties of Boris's dad and all the trust fund influencers still wanting to travel.

 

Edited February 2, 2021 by Sensitive Outsider

[logboy]

On 2/2/2021 at 4:01 PM, Sensitive Outsider said:

Its a weird one , isn't it...I think it just highlights how scattergun their polices and decision making process is, they really are just making it up each time as they go.

Which has been disastrous the last year as we need to be 3-4 weeks ahead of the curve with pre-emptive decisions. 

The one thing the government have been consistent about the last few years, as a key principle in the need for Brexit is taking back control of the borders and immigration. 

Locking down a small island state, limiting flights and putting in place lockdown hotels, testing every essential traveller coming in was all necessary and achievable (as other countries have proved).

You think they would have jumped at the chance to go in hard now and then keep the tough measures even after covid...

But no, to much much hassle, didnt want the blowback from the Airlines or to restrict the liberties of Boris's dad and all the trust fund influencers still wanting to travel.

 

business looked very influential in earlier decisions about how UK government was going to move and when. there's been a resistance to making moves that might alter a way of life (conserving, being conservative) which, ironically, result in more intricate and fundamental changes to how life needs to be lived because it's picking around the edges of issues and being prolonged, slow, ineffective, repetitive and a 'new normal' that wasn't wanted, intended or just goes a long way from the starting point as a result.

the hard and fast approach looks reckless, as though lacking inspiration or nuance, and could have been perceived to be risky in loss of momentum of economy, despite the virus being an aspect of economy and not a balance of two separate issues, but prevents the need for ever more complicated actions that get altered slightly, or don't look substantial enough, confuse, frustrate, tire, lose support. all the time, over the many months, the next slow, careful choice looks too little, too late. and the deaths pile up very quickly when you take the brakes off lockdowns because people feel liberated as though the primary concern is over, despite it only subsiding temporarily. 

the international comparisons will come back to haunt politicians in any country with a high rate, because any aspect they care to say was unavoidable was possibly avoided elsewhere, any measure not in place here was possibly carried out elsewhere, any population density issue or localised health or financial issues were simultaneously handled in a variety of ways as well as common ways which proved to contribute towards relatively effective (often close to zero) deaths, change to life, expense and so on. we've seen an issue play out globally and provide real-time comparisons when political inaction and incompetence usually relies upon comparable situations not being so visible due to time elapsing between something occurring here and having occurred elsewhere in the past.

there will be a massive attempt to highlight domestically individual issues with each country that goes down the tribunal route to "learn the lessons", but it will have been a virus moving everywhere, killing everywhere, at the same time with the same year, and people will have to assess the successes and failures by comparison of common concerns; that infections are carried, that allowing movement allow carrying, that accumulative movement and mixing causes deaths. trace it back from death, and it will have been as a result of allowing (or not cracking down effectively on) movement as it's the only way covid-19 gets a chance to kill. it's not coincidence, it's fundamental.

Edited February 3, 2021 by logboy

[Rubin Farr]

On 2/1/2021 at 6:08 PM, Upset man said:

That’s the benefits of good leadership on an island 1300ish?) miles from Australia. 

The United States and England never stood a chance.

UK & Ireland have the advantage of being smaller land bodies surrounded by water. They wasted that advantage it seems.

[Limo]

12 hours ago, Rubin Farr said:

UK & Ireland have the advantage of being smaller land bodies surrounded by water. They wasted that advantage it seems.

But unlike New Zealand they have tons of traffic coming in every day.
 

No single European country, not even a rogue island one, stood a chance once the virus entered the continent.

 

[MaartenVC]

About (COVID-19) mRNA Vaccines:

 

[Rubin Farr]

 

[zkom]

81-person orgy broken up by police for breaking coronavirus rules https://uk.news.yahoo.com/81-person-orgy-broken-police-172000595.html

[Braintree]

We're finally getting a mass vaccination site in SF: https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/moscone-center-becomes-bay-area-mass-covid-vaccination-site/

Both my parents have gotten their first shot. It's good to see some actual progress being made.

[Rubin Farr]

4 minutes ago, Braintree said:

We're finally getting a mass vaccination site in SF: https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/moscone-center-becomes-bay-area-mass-covid-vaccination-site/

Both my parents have gotten their first shot. It's good to see some actual progress being made.

In my neighborhood, there is a school doing vaccinations, but only the 2nd shot with an appointment. And from the looks of the people I pass, a lot are still turned away after arranging to get there on time. Trump wasted an entire fucking year that could have set up a viable national distribution chain. I hope he burns in Hell.

[MaartenVC]

About Vaccinations, Herd Thresholds and R0:
(also visualized with mousetraps)

 

[hijexx]

18 hours ago, Rubin Farr said:

 

Lightening the burden on the US Social Security system, one antimasker at a time. At this point I say let it burn their community out. The store wouldn’t stay in business if it didn’t have customers and the market is speaking. 

[Braintree]

5 hours ago, hijexx said:

Lightening the burden on the US Social Security system, one antimasker at a time. At this point I say let it burn their community out. The store wouldn’t stay in business if it didn’t have customers and the market is speaking. 

Meanwhile, each person that dies from covid infects 3-5 other people who may think masks work.

[hijexx]

21 minutes ago, Braintree said:

Meanwhile, each person that dies from covid infects 3-5 other people who may think masks work.

I'm not really being serious. Just pisses me off to see people not caring like that.

[ignatius]

shit

[mister miller]

On 2/4/2021 at 1:06 PM, Rubin Farr said:

 

lol the comments under that video are both hilarious and infuriating.

in other news, US is up to 1.5 million doses given each day

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

seems like this thing is really starting to take off. covid cases and deaths seem to be dropping like a rock.

probably a combo of vaccines + "covid season" (or w/e) coming to an end...

Edited February 7, 2021 by mister miller

[TubularCorporation]

My mom is getting vaccinated right now, I've been getting photos and updates. Pretty terribly conceived, literally thousands of people crammed into a hotel lobby, she's been there almost two hours at this point, obviously being done as cheaply as possible with minimal oversight (and probably a healthy payout to the hotel), and now the next few weeks will be waiting to see if she was infected while getting the vaccine, which is doubly concerning because my father is immunocompromised.  Just disgusting. Not surprising, but disgusting.

[TubularCorporation]

On 2/7/2021 at 5:19 PM, mister miller said:

in other news, US is up to 1.5 million doses given each day

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

seems like this thing is really starting to take off. covid cases and deaths seem to be dropping like a rock.

probably a combo of vaccines + "covid season" (or w/e) coming to an end...

 

Not likely.

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-failure-to-provide-vaccines-to-poorer-countries-is-another-example-of/

[ignatius]

500,000 deaths in USA from covid

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-reaches-500-000-deaths-coronavirus-n1257992

[Cryptowen]

Apparently the guy who lives in the apartment next to mine got diagnosed, making him the second person I've known personally irl to officially have covid since it started back in march.

"code red" still ongoing in Montreal. Apparently movie theatres & pools are opening specifically for March Break, but you still can't go out after 8PM, gyms/restaurants/etc are all still closed. i think the next re-assessment is after March Break, fingers crossed that gains are back on the menu soon

It's warm enough that I can easily motivate myself to go jogging in the morning again, so that's nice. During the deepst part of the winter my only form of exercise was yoga, and while it's nice to be able to wrap my leg over my shoulder like a backpack strap, at a certain point you just start to feel like you're getting a little too loose

[ambermonk]

Just now, ignatius said:

500,000 deaths in USA from covid

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-reaches-500-000-deaths-coronavirus-n1257992

Doesn't help that Trump's racist leftovers are scapegoating Asian-Americans over this either.

[randomsummer]

My coworker tested positive mid-week this week.  He's the only person I've actually interacted with at work, and I interacted with him (through masks) for about 15 total minutes the Friday before he tested positive.  I feel fine, and it's been 9 days since contact, which was before he exhibited symptoms.

He had a fever for 2 days, feels flu-like muscle aches now, and says he has sharp kidney pain.

[ignatius]

4 minutes ago, ambermonke said:

Doesn't help that Trump's racist leftovers are scapegoating Asian-Americans over this either.

more than just scapegoating.. hate crimes against asians exploded last year and that trend continues. it's fucking scary dumb frustrating and crazy. 

[Plum]

9 hours ago, Cryptowen said:

... During the deepst part of the winter my only form of exercise was yoga, and while it's nice to be able to wrap my leg over my shoulder like a backpack strap, at a certain point you just start to feel like you're getting a little too loose

This post had absolutely no business being that provocative.

I came’d.   

[chenGOD]

21 hours ago, Cryptowen said:

 

"code red" still ongoing in Montreal. Apparently movie theatres & pools are opening specifically for March Break, but you still can't go out after 8PM, gyms/restaurants/etc are all still closed. i think the next re-assessment is after March Break, fingers crossed that gains are back on the menu soon

 

Did they not delay March break in Quebec? 
It’s been delayed here in Ontario, until April sometime. Presumably in the hopes of preventing another colossal fuckup like what happened post Xmas. 

[marf]

Isn't the vaccinations kind of meaningless with all these variants going around? Might help a little. This thing is mutating faster than they can vaccinate