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21 minutes ago, dcom said:

Religion is the second worst and still ongoing pandemic we've ever had. Humanity itself is the worst.

Now i don't want to spark a big conversation about this and i know where you are coming from, i really do, religion can be extremely dogmatic and fucked, but i just want to mention that i have witnessed first hand some people basically being saved from suicide and/or depression, addiction and abuse by spiritual practice. Me included. (forms of meditation)

Religion is what you make of it. Ive met some people that practice spirituality (first nation elders) that were very low profile about it and you don't really hear about it in the news or anywhere but were some of the most amazing and compassionate people you can meet.

What i'm really getting at is that it can be for some a quite powerful introspective and transforming tool to be a better person and have greater happiness and peace of mind for some people.

Of course it can be also be a force that feeds into prejudice, ignorance, dogma or violence but it is not always the case. It is what you make of it like pretty much anything.

I also think humans are capable of the worse as well as of the best. For every Hitler there is a Beethoven. There is danger in calling human beings worthless. You can start basically not give a fuck about other people well being because you think they are not worth much and become quite a bit misanthropic and nihilistic. I think it's very important, in the face of all that is evil in man, not to ever forget the good or else everything is despair and despair never helped anyone.

Again, i don't want to spark a big conversation about this, i'm not looking into changing your mind or convince you but just putting it out there that there is indeed some people that can take something positive from various religious or spiritual practices or teachings.

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22 minutes ago, thefxbip said:

Again, i don't want to spark a big conversation about this, i'm not looking into changing your mind or convince you but just putting it out there that there is indeed some people that can take something positive from various religious or spiritual practices or teachings.

I was being sarcastic (hence the "humanity is a virus" trope used in e.g. The Matrix). Although I'm a pure-bred atheist, I acknowledge the role and benefits of religiosity and spirituality as mental health support systems - but I also have an extreme dislike of religious people pushing their belief systems on others due to evangelism being a virtue. They think what they're doing is good, but to someone like me, it's an irritant. Nevertheless, I'm not against religion pear se, I just rather keep it away from my mental environment.

I also didn't intend to disparage religion by calling it a pandemic - I meant that as an idea virus it's infected most people on earth one way or the other in the context of memetic - whether you're a believer or not, most people have a conception of what religion is - some innately, some extraneously.

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9 minutes ago, cern said:

Religion have helped many people also. I would say Money is a bigger virus than Religion..

Religion is responsible for plenty of atrocities, internally and externally. The good parts are good, but the bad are really, REALLY bad at their worst. The Enlightenment wouldn't have come about without religion, or widespread reading and writing skills, to name a few. There's plenty of arguments both ways.

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18 minutes ago, cern said:

Religion have helped many people also. I would say Money is a bigger virus than Religion..

the church is RICH AS FUCK. so, does that make them a double virus? yeah.. probably.. don't get me start on religion and specifically the catholic church because i won't shut the fuck up for a while and i'll knock this thread into a tail spin. 

i'll let stephen fry make some comments as a starter. other topics worth investigation, the witch hunts, the war on women, dawn of capitalism, mass graves at full of indigenous people at former catholic run schools in canada, white supremacy, raping children, the new world etc etc.. 

 

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17 minutes ago, cern said:

Religion have helped many people also. I would say Money is a bigger virus than Religion..

Money is definitely one of the worst creations of humanity, and organized religion has exploited that throughout history.

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The Messiah storyline influence politics a lot still to this day i think. Loads of people are still looking for a single external savior individual to fix everything and politicians surf on that myth a lot. 

Same for books and movies. How many movies with a single superman Christ like savior that fixes everything for the rest of the people? Marvel, Matrix, Star Wars etc etc

Looks like an interesting book.

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we need a new category of torture porn, where a gestapo like military force rounds up the anti-vaxxers, physically forces them to get vaccinated. they could live stream the shit. we could all be watching the fox noosers writhe and scream in agony as the jab goes into the arm. would be like some modern day version of an exorcism. huzzah!

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5 hours ago, Petajaja said:

the world needs to move on and learn to accept this virus like they do with colds / flu even IF it is more harmful, it's not going away,

fellas we got an IFer. 

is covid19 more harmful than the flu? simply no way to know innit

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6 minutes ago, zero said:

we need a new category of torture porn, where a gestapo like military force rounds up the anti-vaxxers, physically forces them to get vaccinated. they could live stream the shit. we could all be watching the fox noosers writhe and scream in agony as the jab goes into the arm. would be like some modern day version of an exorcism. huzzah!

I bet if Trump or Mike Lindell would autograph their arms, right wingers might get their jab on.

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21 minutes ago, Rubin Farr said:

I bet if Trump or Mike Lindell would autograph their arms, right wingers might get their jab on.

remember el trumpo got the vaccine en secreto. he was publicly promoting all the ill effects of it, while meanwhile he and Melons were jabbing away. oh the hypocrisy never ends!

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5 minutes ago, zero said:

remember el trumpo got the vaccine en secreto. he was publicly promoting all the ill effects of it, while meanwhile he and Melons were jabbing away. oh the hypocrisy never ends!

Yes, the hypocrisy is off the charts. Tucker, Ron DeSantis, all of those douches got their jab as soon as possible, but now sit back in safety, and preach anti-vaxxing to their followers for purely financial gain and a power grab.

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Im happy to live outside of town. Im happy to get all the info via TV and internet and there is hospitals and vaccines. 
Think of living in Europe or USA 100 years ago when the Spanish flu was coming in.. Nobody understand what the fu'k was going on.. 

I don't like religion but I like to go to the buddha temple sometimes just to pray for all the best and show that Im thankful for what I have. 

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27 minutes ago, cern said:

Im happy to live outside of town. Im happy to get all the info via TV and internet and there is hospitals and vaccines. 
Think of living in Europe or USA 100 years ago when the Spanish flu was coming in.. Nobody understand what the fu'k was going on.. 

I don't like religion but I like to go to the buddha temple sometimes just to pray for all the best and show that Im thankful for what I have. 

I was in a Buddhist household for 10 years, so I hear ya. It’s funny how the Asian American communities travel to each other’s temples to check out the food. 🍲 

damn, fried bananas...

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44 minutes ago, cern said:

Well maybe the money is not the virus itself.. I should call it greed. 

As currency becomes completely digital (except for maybe precious metals), money becomes even more meaningless. Just a code of numbers we all agree mean the same thing. When everything humans trade in becomes an abstract concept like credit, what is anything really worth? Ownership becomes obsolete, hey that’s commie talk. whoops 

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2 hours ago, Amen Warrior said:

While we're still nominating things that aren't actually viruses as viruses, I'd like to put forth consumer capitalism.

 

Also indie rock

individualism

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kind of a weird thing going on where people can’t see how covid is complicated? so you see a lot of deniers and minimizers emphasizing the harmful effects of lockdowns and social isolation (which are very fucked up and real) but basically ignoring the harmful effects of covid itself (millions dead, who knows how many to now have lifelong complications, etc).
 

the fact is pandemics are bad. there’s not a chill and cool way of dealing with them. but it seems very obvious to me that without distancing, massk-wearing, targeted shutdowns, etc the situation would be way worse, many more people dead, many more sick, many businesses failing as a result of these things, etc. 

I think the people who are so upset only about how much lockdowns suck just don’t really want to admit how much of a massive bummer something like covid is bc that requires accepting a truly depressing fact of life. 
 

y’all are like keifer sutherland in “melancholia”

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2 minutes ago, Alcofribas said:

the fact is pandemics are bad. there’s not a chill and cool way of dealing with them.

the pandemic has been a good lesson in

A. the fact that there probably isn't a secret global elite calling the shot

B. actually maybe things would run better if there was

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11 minutes ago, Cryptowen said:

the pandemic has been a good lesson in

A. the fact that there probably isn't a secret global elite calling the shot

B. actually maybe things would run better if there was

the biggest feeling of panic for me around all this was very much the sense that in some essential way there really  is no one in charge. 

the deniers and conspiracy theorists are still captured by the big other with this; they're clinging to the sense that there is a big dad running things. in reality the ruling class are just a bunch of rworded assholes who largely have no clue what they're doing. they're experts at consolidating wealth, that's p much it.

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7 minutes ago, Alcofribas said:

the deniers and conspiracy theorists are still captured by the big other with this; they're clinging to the sense that there is a big dad running things. in reality the ruling class are just a bunch of rworded assholes who largely have no clue what they're doing. they're experts at consolidating wealth, that's p much it.

yeah i think this is part of why conspiracy theorists tend to be associated more with the political right, if we take the right as "prefers central authority" (i'm treating things like libertarianism & anarcho-capitalism as mutations of liberalism). the conspiracy theorist subconsciously wants there to be someone calling the shots, even if that person is out to get them. whereas in actuality a lot of modern chaos seems to emerge from the fact that there really isn't any sort of elite authority or organizing principle holding things together (in actual fact we inhabit a world in which those who most ruthlessly pursue their individual interest tend to rise to the top)

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