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I blame the chinese virus for all this

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12 minutes ago, Ivan Ooze said:

I blame the chinese virus for all this

Absolutely 

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58 minutes ago, perunamuussi said:

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause
Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed

 

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23/italy-only-12-of-covid19-deaths-list-covid19-as-cause/

It's established that most deaths had underlying health issues, that's not misattribution. This is a loopy take.

And then I read the 'about' section

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OffGuardian was launched in February 2015 and takes its name from the fact its founders had all been censored on and/or banned from the Guardian’s ‘Comment is Free’ sections.

...backs away...

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I blame the withces.

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12 minutes ago, BCM said:
45 minutes ago, perunamuussi said:
Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause
Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed
 
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23/italy-only-12-of-covid19-deaths-list-covid19-as-cause/

very interesting, thanks!

Looks like very poor reporting. Perhaps fake news even.

It's true that it's a highly nuanced topic, but the underlying epidemiological definitions would be very clear. And of the upmost importance that it is internationally being applied as good as possible. Otherwise, the data is meaningless and research is useless. You can bet your life that plenty of researchers (and the WHO) have been and are looking at this like hawks. 

Without knowing the underlying epidemiological definitions, this article is worthless and pure speculation. Perhaps to get people to believe it's all a hoax. 

Also, the presented argument isn't very strong either. Yes, people don't die "from" Covid-19. They die because of complications related to Covid-19. And especially when comorbidities are involved.

If there are comorbidities, it's hard to say whether a person died because of disease X or Y. That's a given. Within the current circumstances though, the question soon becomes whether a patient would have these complications (with this severity) without Covid-19. Here you'd also have an argument about, well, lets say these complications might have existed before Covid-19, but suddenly became much more severe. Resulting in death. There's still an argument here where you could safely argue this death should be counted as Covid-19 related. Because otherwise, the impact of treatment might have been completely different.

Here's another mindfucker: if patient X dies of an untreated stroke (no Covid-19). And it's untreated because all physicians were busy treating Covid-19 patients and made a conscious choice not to treat patient X because of this, would you count this death under Covid-19? I'm sure that's a no, but really, this needs some thinking is not obvious when you think about it.

it's a no, i'd argue, because you want to assess the risk of dying to covid-19 by counting all patients with covid-19. including those with comorbidities, btw.

In short: looks like poor reporting to me.

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1 hour ago, very honest said:

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I'm not really sure I trust the off-guardians reporting tbh, they're obviously witches.

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Queensland local elections stiiiiiiil going ahead on Saturday, despite an almost total lockdown. $133 fines for failure to vote. Still haven't received my postal vote yet. Ugh!

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3 minutes ago, Gocab said:

I'm not really sure I trust the off-guardians reporting tbh, they're obviously witches.

never heard of them. some kind of onion? or am i missing something?

couldn't be bothered to check as it looked like a bunch of elaborated nonsense. might be a poor form of satire, or something. dunno. i think it should be killed with fire.

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It's a full on nutjob website

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confess witch, confess! before you die

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David Icke is masturbating furiously 

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gRaTiTuDe sUpPoRtS ThE ImMuNe sYsTeM

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Was legit thinking that video was going to be a car commercial.

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1 hour ago, goDel said:

 

1 hour ago, BCM said:
2 hours ago, perunamuussi said:
Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause
Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed
 
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23/italy-only-12-of-covid19-deaths-list-covid19-as-cause/

very interesting, thanks!

Looks like very poor reporting. Perhaps fake news even.

 

It looks like they took a piece of legit information (the vast majority of Italy’s COVID-19 deaths had comorbidities*) and turned it into nonsense.

If you have, say, high blood pressure (or diabetes or heart problems) COVID-19 is very dangerous for you and may very well cause you to die.

Would you have been better at surviving COVID-19 had you not had high blood pressure (or diabetes or heart problems)? Of course.

But it’s the COVID-19 that kills you, not the high blood pressure (or diabetes or heart problems).


 

* FWIW that was in a regular and normally somewhat reputable Dutch newspaper this morning.

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So, Trump is still overtly downplaying the severity of this virus and talking about how he'll be "opening up" the country soon so people can get back to work.

A few thoughts... probably stating the obvious:

Trump's personal businesses (notably his resorts... I still can't fucking believe we have a fucking president that's been actively profiting off of goddamn resorts) have had to close to prevent the spread of the virus. I believe he could give two shits about the American people, let alone his resort staff, and is willing to sacrifice millions of lives so he can lift restrictions on his profiting.

Not only this, the fucking republican stooges are still so desperate to avoid any cracks in their veneer that they are STILL willing to support and consciously parrot whatever this monster says, again, at the risk of sacrificing American lives... fucking fascists.

Trump's defense is that he can simply blame Pelosi and the Democratic majority on anything that doesn't look good. Plus, his cult of morons will just believe whatever the fuck he says, even if they end up eating fish tank cleaner and dying (which, not surprisingly, has actually happened) because of mindless/reckless shit he says in his press conferences.

This is all very bad. However...

It's all looking good for humanity that anyone that is a republican or Trump supporter that believes all of his nonsense will likely contract covid-19 and hopefully die off. With the exception of some tragic loss of innocent life due to idiots spreading the virus, this whole thing could result in a best case scenario of all of these evil fucks and anyone brainwashed into believing them and voting for them being wiped off the board. 

Sad thing is, we'll still be stuck with the supreme court, unless they all die, too. 

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@dr lopez any word on your grandfather? Is he doing ok?

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thank you for the concern. he is "stable" which means sedated and on a ventilator. The nurse said he is "not worse" than the last few days. they haven't had to increase the ventilator so we'll see. He's fighting it but they won't have a good sense of how he's doing until the end of this week.

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1 minute ago, dr lopez said:

thank you for the concern. he is "stable" which means sedated and on a ventilator. The nurse said he is "not worse" than the last few days. they haven't had to increase the ventilator so we'll see. He's fighting it but they won't have a good sense of how he's doing until the end of this week.

Hope he pulls through!

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5 minutes ago, dr lopez said:

thank you for the concern. he is "stable" which means sedated and on a ventilator. The nurse said he is "not worse" than the last few days. they haven't had to increase the ventilator so we'll see. He's fighting it but they won't have a good sense of how he's doing until the end of this week.

all the best to him

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