cwmbrancity Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Salvatorin said: what the fuck kind of grammar is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I had a nightmare last night that people were playing really horrible new age music and I tried to sing over it so I wouldn't hear. Then I woke up to my own singing. Lol. I think I need to give this a rest. *skis off to listen to rainforest spiritual enslavement* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 There are degrees. Some of those early-mid 80’s synth sound signatures haven’t aged well. The ambient thread here is prob one of the better ones for scope & detail, some wicked tracks. @zkom this is your worst nightmare: https://www.discogs.com/Merl-Saunders-Blues-From-The-Rainforest-A-Musical-Suite/release/1892351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 17 hours ago, ManjuShri said: Colin Stetson is the name that immediately springs to mind wrt brass ambient/drone due to his circular breathing and neck/throat pickup technique. Would be grateful for any recs from other people in this idea too. Compare Steton’s “Reborn” to the prelude of Wagner’s Das Rheingold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 27 minutes ago, cwmbrancity said: @zkom this is your worst nightmare: https://www.discogs.com/Merl-Saunders-Blues-From-The-Rainforest-A-Musical-Suite/release/1892351 Yeah, lol it's pretty terrible Anyway, people have their tastes and who am I to criticize? Fortunately I don't have to listen to this music, unless it's some backpacker bar in S.E. Asia but even then I can just get the fuck out. Also I think some of the new age stuff that was popular back in the 80s and 90s would not survive in the current culture wars and identity politics environment. Cultural appropriation much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/3/2020 at 3:05 PM, droid said: Its a bit silly to dislike music based on an arbitrary application of a label. There's a ton of brilliant new age. Music from that tradition has as much of a claim to being ambient music as anything else, certainly more so than the avant roots that are normally cited for the genre. This is stunning, almost “barely there”, but does so much with so little. Sublime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 There's a lot of new age stuff that just seems tagged with the label, a lot of the minimalist Japanese stuff for example (e.g. Hiroshi Yoshimura), but a lot of it came from the new age movement more generally (i.e. people involved in various woo-ey meditation, crystal healing, counter-culture offshoots, someone like Iasos say), there's some great music in both camps though, as well as plenty of cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I've found a bunch of great things like this over the last few years for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droid Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 Ha! Music for massage. One of my favourites. The liner notes are great. There's a track for each area of the body IIRC. Vol. 2 is essential as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManjuShri Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Aye Caze, that Ojas album you linked us was lush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 On 2/3/2020 at 3:02 PM, ManjuShri said: Colin Stetson is the name that immediately springs to mind wrt brass ambient/drone due to his circular breathing and neck/throat pickup technique. Would be grateful for any recs from other people in this idea too. On 2/3/2020 at 3:45 PM, droid said: Every record with a trombone is brilliant, its one of the ur-ambient instruments. brasses are so fucking great thanks for these reccs On 2/3/2020 at 9:05 AM, droid said: Its a bit silly to dislike music based on an arbitrary application of a label. There's a ton of brilliant new age. Music from that tradition has as much of a claim to being ambient music as anything else, certainly more so than the avant roots that are normally cited for the genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 and the title trawk off this, see if the time-stamp works first from 54:40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 On 2/3/2020 at 9:49 AM, Atop said: I wish we could put new age, ambient, and drone into one category. The individual artists will always be what truly matters. This, much of the context regarding the use of "new age" as a descriptor is re-appropriating the term as a musical genre and ethos, like the term "world music" it was dragged down by late 80s and 90s era commercialization and appropriation to the point were it became a watered down superficial aesthetic - muzak, mall shops, and well, all the all but discarded pop culture minutia that vaporwave has since re-evaluated. "New Age Music" included a lot of experimental and avant-garde music of the 1970s through 1990s - ambient, kosmische, drone, fusion, left-field jazz, etc. Part of it's resurgence has been the rediscovery of private press and/or niche releases from that era that were either skipped over because of the stigma of their overtly new age themes. This started in the 00s via reissues and re-evaluations of Laraaji, JD Emmanual, Iasos, etc. Besides the Light In the Attic releases there have been reissues and new releases by rediscovered artists via Leaving Records and a plethora of tape rips via Sounds of the Dawn and various blogs and YT channels. It parallels similar re-discoveries of Japanese City Pop Hell, 80s and 90s era library music, leftfield and DIY electronic tape releases, etc. Hell even I've contributed to this. This tape I ripped and uploaded help shed light on the late Jaxon Crow of Texas, who was featured in a great write-up on Ultravillage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droid Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 Nice Youtube channel - I see you even have some Dan Gibson up there. Interested in some MP3 trades,? Youve got a few things there I dont have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 7 hours ago, joshuatxuk said: This tape I ripped and uploaded Diolch yn fawr iawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cwmbrancity Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 from the Apocalypse Now soundtrack, dystopian new age ambient from Grateful Dead’s rhythm devils, best listened to at night/lights off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 On 2/6/2020 at 9:56 AM, droid said: Nice Youtube channel - I see you even have some Dan Gibson up there. Interested in some MP3 trades,? Youve got a few things there I dont have. eventually yes, I have a lot of stuff on a couple external HDs and no working PC at the moment thanks for posting this here, cool seeing a WATMMer mentioned on a Simon Reynolds piece on RA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Rob Lowe’s sounds (solo, collabs & Lichens) fit that space beyond bs gallery, theory-driven wank Reynolds described as Conceptronica the more you dig, the more you find: https://www.discogs.com/artist/630881-Robert-Lowe-2 https://www.discogs.com/artist/376305-Lichens https://www.discogs.com/Robert-Aiki-Aubrey-Lowe-Ariel-Kalma-We-Know-Each-Other-Somehow/release/6902541 Lastly, Ariel Kalma is someone who’s maintained quality control across a raft of decades, can seem quite new-age at times, but overall continues to inspire. Very humble bloke too. *side note - wonder what tunes have been played at the Esalen Institute over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Kind of related. Black Swan's new Evolution EP inspired by obscure 80s new age cassettes was just released: https://blackswan.bandcamp.com/album/evolution-ep-2020 Digging this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 On 2/3/2020 at 1:02 PM, ManjuShri said: Colin Stetson is the name that immediately springs to mind wrt brass ambient/drone due to his circular breathing and neck/throat pickup technique. Would be grateful for any recs from other people in this idea too. Colin Stetson pulls more from the "minimalists" like Reich and Glass. It's not really drone or ambient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Re-reading, nice work Droid. Last decade was staggering for quality. Framed as a reaction to EDM/wank almost does it a disservice though. Granted, there’s never been more shiny, electronic shit. You can’t seem to escape it in certain environments. Hideous. Technology or DiY attitudes seeping into production values is hard to unpick. Affordability? Maybe there’s so much that hasn’t even been done yet and what has been done hit a golden age (& remains ongoing). Went to a seminar at Cardiff’s music dept on something pretentious like “The End of Harmony?” that touched on ambient & yet missed every possible target. Classical music bods masturbating furiously over “relational music”, like the question was relevant. Composer stood up and proceeded to play a piece that just seemed like an audio jumble of sequiturs and cut ups, cutting a pasting random noise, it took a bit not to laugh. Cue more academic pearl clutching. It wasn’t the lack of modular synth discussion or anything Reynolds discusses above being the problem so much as the theory that drove the outcome to begin/end with. Horrendous. Just read (but don’t either) https://www.shlom.com/?p=relational Could argue both cases for self care vs self obliteration. This book is good for playlists suited to the former & where AL’s “descend & disintegrate” moniker works too https://www.music-and-imagery.eu/news/new-book-guided-imagery-and-music-gim-and-music-imagery-methods-for-individual-and-group-therapy .... Segway to the only criticism - could’ve included something on NWW and Andrew Liles who both weave paradoxically soothing & uneasy sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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